92yr old USAF Veteran gunned down while doing yard work

[1srelluc]

92yr old Retired Air Force Veteran and McDonnell Douglas employee shot three times in his own yard while cleaning up fallen leaves in North St Louis County. Happened in broad daylight 11am on a Wednesday. No information on suspects. I’m sure all the kids were in school at the time.

Even in your own yard, you are a target and need to be armed.

Disgusting. This country is going to shit. We need a purge.

 

[pknopp]

Are you saying that if he was armed this wouldn't have happened?

How did you determine that?

 

[1srelluc]

Are you saying that if he was armed this wouldn't have happened?

How did you determine that?

Nope, but if he saw what was coming, he might have been able to defend himself.

As it was, no chance.

 

[Mr Natural]

Are you saying that if he was armed this wouldn't have happened?

How did you determine that?

He would have dodged those bullets, whipped out his piece, and started blasting.

 

[1srelluc]

He would have dodged those bullets, whipped out his piece, and started blasting.

If you would pass in similar circumstances nobody would care.....They would just go through your pockets for loose change.

 

[1srelluc]

This is the world we live in....Stay strapped.

Illinois man, 59, fatally shot by neighbor while using leaf blower in his own yard, officials say

Ettore Lacchei, 79, was arrested Tuesday and charged with two counts of first-degree murder after the April 12 shooting of his next-door neighbor William Martys, 59.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[JGalt]

Are you saying that if he was armed this wouldn't have happened?

How did you determine that?

That's pretty dumb. Are you saying that had he been armed, his chances of surviving wouldn't have increased?

If that's true, why would citizens, police and military even need firearms. Maybe they should just throw them all away, right?

 

[pknopp]

That's pretty dumb. Are you saying that had he been armed, his chances of surviving wouldn't have increased?

As far as we know, no.

If that's true, why would citizens, police and military even need firearms. Maybe they should just throw them all way, right?

No, why? None of my business what people want to do there.

 

[JGalt]

As far as we know, no.




No, why? None of my business what people want to do there.

As far as you know? Are you even aware of how many people use a firearm to protect themselves every year?

Look it up.

 

[pknopp]

As far as you know? Are you even aware of how many people use a firearm to protect themselves every year?

Look it up.

I never said they didn't. You can address what I said or change the subject. I suspect the latter.

 

[JGalt]

I never said they didn't. You can address what I said or change the subject. I suspect the latter.

What you said was an assumption that had he been armed, you know that he wouldn't have had a chance to defend himself.

Don't play stupid little word games with me, ok?

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According to various studies, Americans use firearms in self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times per year, with some estimates suggesting around 1.6 million defensive gun uses annually in the United States.


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• Range of estimates:
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    The Heritage Foundation and the CDC often cite these figures, referencing studies that include both the display or threat of a firearm as a defensive use, not just actual firing.
    
    

 

[pknopp]

What you said was an assumption that had he been armed, you know that he wouldn't have had a chance to defend himself.

I said that there is no indication it would have made any difference.

 

[1srelluc]

I said that there is no indication it would have made any difference.

Given the sketchy details I just wonder if it was one of those anti-leaf blower nut-jobs.

 

[pknopp]

Given the sketchy details I just wonder if it was one of those anti-leaf blower nut-jobs.

Maybe.

Minneapolis man charged with threatening and shooting neighbor in neck after standoff

 

[JGalt]

I said that there is no indication it would have made any difference.

So what are you going to do when you're beaten, robbed, and raped? Just lay down and say "I have no indication that protecting myself would make any difference"?

Do you even read the things you post?

 

[pknopp]

So what are you going to do when you're beaten, robbed, and raped? Just lay down and say "I have no indication that protecting myself would make any difference"?

Do you even read the things you post?

Sure, it's about me. And irrelevant at that. A claim was made, I countered that claim. On came the strawmen.

 

[JGalt]

Sure, it's about me. And irrelevant at that. A claim was made, I countered that claim. On came the strawmen.

Gawd, you're such a weasel and a contradictarian.

 

[pknopp]

Gawd, you're such a weasel and a contradictarian.

Why post if you aren't interested in defending the things you post?

 

[1srelluc]

Sure, it's about me. And irrelevant at that. A claim was made, I countered that claim. On came the strawmen.

What strawman?

It's better to be armed than defenseless.

 

[pknopp]

What strawman?

It's better to be armed than defenseless.

The claim was it would make a difference here.

Even in your own yard, you are a target and need to be armed.

We have no idea if it would have or not.