Recent content by Keycube

Just so I understand... Since you feel that Israel has no legal basis for existing as a sovereign entity, any palestinian/arab deaths - even those overtly due to palestinian/arab aggression - will always be the fault of the Israelis. Burden of creation, and all that. Does that sound about...

That strawman has no significance whatsoever in regards to your original argument/discussion; it's just sour grapes veiled as...I'm not sure what, exactly. No Jew or non-Jew would argue against your position. The point, is that the "superpowers" provided for the arabs as well. But they got...

You're right, that was my mistake. I assumed your issue was with the original Jewish immigration. The reason I assumed that, is because no arab apologist in their right mind uses the 1948 war as a bludgeoning stick for the negation of an Israeli state. The original partition plan called for...

The history books I've read, recall a 19th century Palestine essentially raped, pillaged, and left to die by the Ottoman Empire. And then the Jews showed up. I've never read of arabs being "displaced" by Jewish immigration. I HAVE read of native arabs more than happy to sell pieces of land to...

Dude, are you just yanking my chain? How can there be a dialogue if we can't even agree on historical facts?

Occupation by whom? Gaza was under Egyptian control, and the West Bank was annexed by Jordan only a year later. Unless you're talking about the Jews "occupying" the pieces of land that were granted very legally in the UN Partition Plan.

Let me ask you this...if the arab coalition had driven the Jews into the sea in 1948 (or any time thereafter, when that was still their goal), and now inhabited all of present-day Israel...would you be carrying a torch for the Jews, in the name of an unjust war levied against them?

And..? Again, 1948 negates your right to complain about any of this "occupation" business. Furthermore, electing terrorist organizations to lead your, umm...territory...is only bound to cause yourself more grief. And so when grief comes, don't whine.

You know this isn't true. Or perhaps you don't, and who could blame you...since the only time Israeli/Gaza strife makes the news is when Israel retaliates. Rocket attacks on Israel are something measured in numbers per week. Do the research. Actually, I'll do it for you. You're welcome...

While in principle you're right, pragmatically you MUST admit that without the "palestinian homeland" issue being used as a PR bludgeoning stick, we wouldn't even be having this conversation about borders. And if you look at Gaza as "West Bank lite", given its own autonomy after the Israeli...

Seems a lot of people like to forget that we wouldn't have a palestinian (i.e., border) argument if the palestinians hadn't worn out their welcome with Jordan back in the day. They had every opportunity in the world to make it work as an autonomous entity, but couldn't keep from stirring up...

Hey guys, first time poster. Just wanted to throw in my .02 regarding Israel's borders. While the taking of land by force leaves a bad taste in most every rational person's mouth, the taking of land as a byproduct of others trying to "drive the Jews into the sea" is a very different animal...