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    Zionism's Dead End: Separation and Transfer

    My first post on this thread, and my only point, was in response to a comment you made that struck me as self-injurious in the extreme, as you were noting that "in hindsight" it was a mistake not to transfer the Palestinians. I linked this to Ben Gurion's opinion that compulsory transfer was not...
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    Zionism's Dead End: Separation and Transfer

    It wasn't your reply though was it? It was a tangentially related copy paste job that didn't refute my assertion, which I repeat, was that Ben Gurion said "I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in it anything immoral." You too it would seem see nothing immoral in what today would be called...
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    Zionism's Dead End: Separation and Transfer

    I said Ben-Gurion saw nothing immoral in compulsory transfer. You asked where he said this. I provided a reference. You responded by citing Efraim Karsh, who doesn't deny Ben-Gurion's words, in fact he cites them and merely continues the quote, with his thoughts about who should propose and...
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    Zionism's Dead End: Separation and Transfer

    "I support compulsory transfer. I don't see in it anything immoral." Ben-Gurion quoted in Benny Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited. Cambridge University Press, 2004, p 50.
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    Zionism's Dead End: Separation and Transfer

    Even if like Ben Gurion you believe there is nothing immoral in "compulsory transfer," the forcible deportation of a population is defined as a crime against humanity under ICC statutes. I wouldn't want to be caught advocating that, if not for moral reasons, for purely practical ones. It doesn't...
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    I'm not sure how seriously to take your references to nomadic warrior raiders and border-crossing tribes in the Negev. Again, I repeat, the Bedouin in the Negev were historically nomadic or semi-nomadic. The word historically is operative there, since today they are sedentarized. In fact many...
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    If you don't see a problem with demolishing the homes of people of a particular ethnicity in order to force them to live on less land, that's for you and your conscience to sort out. But, whichever way you cut it, this policy cannot be squared with some utopian vision of an Israel which...
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    Many of the unrecognized villages existed long before 1948, within territorial limits registered by Ottoman administrators. So what's the process by which land which existed long before the creation of the state becomes the property of the state? It's simple enough. The Israeli government...
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    Anthony Weener: "West Bank isn't Occupied"

    Look up a debate between Weiner and former US Representative Brian Baird. Weiner insisted that the IDF was no longer in the West Bank, and also that the settlements are going on in Israel. The audience responded appropriately enough with laughter.
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    I don't think I'm the one watching cliche movies here. More than half of the Negev Bedouins population live in the unrecognized villages, which are just that, villages. The village of Al-Araqeeb for example has been demolished over thirty times. It doesn't take a bulldozer to demolish a tent...
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    Bedouins don't live in tents in the middle of a hellhole, though its interesting that's the image that came to mind. Those impacted by the plan live in what are often called unrecognized villages and the plan intends to relocate them to government-approved planned townships. The comparison...
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    Not a Matter of Religion

    This Monday, the Prawer-Begin Plan for the Arrangement of Bedouin-Palestinian Settlement in the Negev passed the first Knesset reading. The plan involves evicting 30-40,000 Bedouin citizens of Israel from their homes. Given what is currently happening, your statement generates some cognitive...
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    UPDATE: Mohammed Assaf IS Arab Idol!!!

    Thanks for the welcome. I did refer to the difference in Anglicized form - Shaheed vs Shahid. I can't do better without resorting to transliteration. If you're interested, that would be Shahīd (شهيد) - martyr, spelt with ya and no alif, emphasis on the second...
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    UPDATE: Mohammed Assaf IS Arab Idol!!!

    They are two different words, not heteronyms. And yes, very obviously. The assumption is telling.
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    UPDATE: Mohammed Assaf IS Arab Idol!!!

    Shaheed means martyr. Shahid means watch. The site is the MBC group's equivalent of Hulu.
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