Your Congressman Takes Bribes

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    The civil rights movement should give us encouragement and remove some of the apathy. United in overwhelming numbers, and using civil disobedience can turn the tide and create the change we are discussing here.
    It takes courage and discipline like the freedom riders and many others of that movement had. They too had different opinions on how to accomplish their goal, and who would be leaders etc.. but they mostly succeeded.

    The PTB know if we were unified and displayed our displeasure about the current situation we find ourselves in
    shit would really hit the fan, why do you think all the police state laws are being rushed through, and anyone can be labeled a "terrorist" for the most trivial of things we used to take for granted?
    A united disgruntled citizenry is a terrifying thought to them.
     
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    The civil rights movement is a good example. So many say public financing will never happen, but they said the same thing about integration. NAACP founded 1909, major civil rights acts enacted in the 1960s. Don't give up, even if it takes a while.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv1QIhBBKZE]MSNBC: Corruption & the Case for Public Financing of Elections, 12/27/10 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Somehow I knew this would turn into the public campaign finance reform nonissue. So, how is getting this measure passed into law working out?

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    Unlike libertarianism, at least it has a chance. NAACP founded 1909, major civil rights acts enacted in the 1960s. Sorry, if things aren't going fast enough for you, but at least it's more worthwhile to talk about actual solutions, than whining about "corporatism", when the answer is staring you in the face. :cool: (Not "cool" this time, but a symbol of some people's bindness)
     
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    The only problem with that is you get accused by the right of being "Alinskis," like he invented the idea. Just another absurd assertion from the lack of fact right wing fascist types. I guess the Magna Carta just spontaneously appeared from some great parnormal cloud or something. Organizing has been around for quite a while. The application may be slightly different, but people didn't just wake up feeling particularly pissy one day and decide to organize to promote a greater outcome for a particular society at a particular point in time.
     
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    This proposed movement, OWS, Tea Party and the likes shouldn't take as long to accomplish as the civil rights movement did, as ALL are being subjected to the current abuses of power and the privileged, not just a small percentage of a minority.
    The more of the populace that is effected, the greater the numbers have increased to protest and speak out, and educating others.
     
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    I hope you're right. I won't live to see it, if it takes as long as civil rights. :eusa_pray:
     
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    If not in our lifetime due to our age, then for the future of our children and grandchildren and so on.
    If you study the process of how we wound up in our current situation and mess, one would see that it was a long and calculated process.

    The implementation e.g. of a private central bank in the US did not spring up overnight, indeed it was a plan that was implemented and put into motion by many who did not live to see it finally come to pass in 1913, thus in order to reverse such atrocities like the Fed Reserve, the same mindset of perhaps having to endure a long protracted effort, with the goal in mind to rid ourselves of it, should not deter us, for the sake of our country, and future generations.

    Education on this and other topics of importance is vital, and it starts, i.e., with adding or subtracting factual caveats when discussing homework, or what our children are learning in school, and explaining to them from an early age, that everything may not be as it seems, of course backing up the interjections with true facts,
    soon we will have a more educated youngster, immersed in factual history, instead of indoctrinated 'bots that simply repeat whatever propaganda is told/taught to them that can be dispelled by the truth.

    Imagine a majority of educated people questioning the actions of government, and downright angry at being lied to about many things...a mass movement demanding REAL change would spring forth, and only those that are in step with reality, truth, honesty and their constituents who have these values, would be trusted to hold positions of political office.
    If only greed would be demonized on the same level as real constitutional values, fairness, and freedom seem to be today, progress would be made more swiftly.

    Judge Napolitano: Final Word on the Last Episode of Freedom Watch [14-Feb-12 © FoxBusiness] - YouTube
     
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    There is a solution. Look at Switzerland's government. It is a direct democracy. There are a lot of things that would cut out a bunch of Congressional bullshit. The people have the authority to overturn anything that is not in the interests of the people and the country. Here is one thing I think would help. Every party gets a shot at governing, so no one is left out. They say it is a thrifty government that has far less corruption and most of the bills passed, benefit everyone. I am not totally schooled but I think several countries have this type of government, including parts of Germany, if I am not mistaken.
     

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