toobfreak
Tungsten/Glass Member
Dude, there is cause and effect. I have not exonerated Garrett in any way. I'm saying that the catalyst
to Rudolph's helmet being ripped off was when he went for Garrett's helmet, and I've shown YOU the vid that shows
Rudolph culpability to what went down. That wasn't by accident what Rudolph did. He should be fined.
Make all the excuses you want, you've shown that it's what you do.
This conversation is over between the two of us.
You don't KNOW that! You don't know it wasn't an accident! Why do you keep insisting something you don't know? And I have all the vid there is, the actual game, and whether his hands on Garrett's head precipitated anything that followed is IMMATERIAL when all of that was precipitated by Garrett's many hard takedowns, very late hit, roughing the passer and driving Rudolph's face into the ground holding his arms to his sides started it all in the first place!
Your argument is like your driving into my car head on, ejecting me out through my windshield then blaming me for breaking your windshield with my body!
Everything here was Garrett's fault. Period. I wouldn't even fine Pouncey for defending his QB, I commend him. It's only too bad some of his blows didn't really land. Rudolph will not be suspended. I doubt he will even be fined. And when the Steelers play those Brown Turds again in 14 days, they are going to plaster their shit brown asses all over the field.
None of us KNOW what any of the players intended. What we can SEE, however, is that first Rudolph tried to yank off Garrett's helmet, but was unsuccessful. Then Garrett successfully yanked off Rudolph's helmet. Then, of course, as Rudolph came back toward Garrett, Garrett swung the helmet and struck Rudolph in the head.
The only important point of contention here is that you seem to think Rudolph's hands getting Garrett's helmet twisted sideways and halfway off his head was some sort of completely unintentional, innocent accident.
WE don't know that at all. All we know is that Rudolph was trying to defend himself against a totally late and unnecessary hit in a game that was over and the Browns had already won, which is what makes it totality stupid. Why were the Steelers even running a passing play? What was the point? Just one more stupid thing in a totally stupid game that was full of head-hunting apparently because of some dumb yawning comment Tomlin made last summer which Odell Beckham took personally and apparently compelled the entire Browns team to prove him wrong and to set straight something like a 15 year losing history to the Steelers.
Rudolph had his hands all over the top of Garrett trying to find a way of controlling him. Garrett's helmet was temporarily pulled up on the back of his head for a split second, probably because he was trying to pull away from Rudolph while he still had his hand holding onto the back of it. Garrett's helmet was NEVER twisted sideways, Rudolph is supposed to get some sort of fine just to make everything look good and to placate all the hot heads out there, though it won't be much, and the final verdicts will be handed out Wednesday.
- Other than that, the Head Coach of the Browns totally blamed Garrett totally, not Rudolph.
- The Browns QB totally blamed Garrett, not Rudolph.
- GARRETT totally blames himself and not Rudolph.
- And the fact that Rudolph is only getting a nominal fine and no suspension shows that the NFL agrees. Though Rudolph may have added to the event by fighting back and resisting, it was after all, totally defensive. No one made Garrett hit another player in the head with a weapon except Garrett. And for a late hit in a game that was essentially over that they had already won.
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