"World Opinion" is Worthless

[rtwngAvngr]

Put on your brown shirt, put on your SS cap, and go to a white supremist rally

truth hurts, eh?

 

[red states rule]

truth hurts, eh?

Any truth you are spending your vacation at Auschwitz?

It will give you a chance to think back to the good ol' days when the Jews knew their place.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

It will give you a chance to think back to the good ol' days when the Jews knew their place.

When was that?

 

[theHawk]

When has RWA ever advocated violence against Jews? Or praised Nazis?

This slander is getting out of hand...



:scratch:

 

[rtwngAvngr]

When as RWA ever advocated violence against Jews? Or praised Nazis?

This slander is getting out of hand...



:scratch:

Thanks brother, but to these neocon idiots any criticism of anything remotely jewish, or anything that merely smells like a bagel, makes you a nazi. The jews are perfect, haven't you heard? :rotflmao:

 

[red states rule]

When has RWA ever advocated violence against Jews? Or praised Nazis?

This slander is getting out of hand...



:scratch:

He seems to hate Jews and dose blame them for all the trouble in the Middle East.

Much like Germans blamed Jews for all their problems in the 1930's

But back to the topic at hand.........

http://newsbusters.org/node/6708

Israel Investigates Blogger Allegations of Qana Staging
Posted by Matthew Sheffield on August 2, 2006 - 10:39.
The Jerusalem Post reports today that the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) is investigating arguments, first raised by bloggers, that Hamas may have staged the alleged "atrocity" that occurred when building collapsed in the Lebanese city of Qana.

As reported by NewsBusters and elsewhere, significant doubts are being raised as to whether the building's collapse was caused by Israeli bombs or was deliberately destroyed by Hamas to gin up anti-Israeli sentiment.

Mentioned prominently in the article is NewsBuster Bob Owens's blog, Confederate Yankee, which in the fine MSM tradition of accuracy, is called "Conservative Yankee" by the Post. (See Bob's response post here.)

An excerpt from the JP article is after the jump...

The IDF is looking into allegations raised over the past few days by several pro-Israel, Jewish and conservative Weblogs that Hizbullah may have staged aspects of the Kana tragedy on Sunday, in which some 60 Lebanese bodies were removed from a building that collapsed seven hours after being hit in an Israel Air Force strike.

The dead were mainly children, women and elderly people.

The International Committee of the Red Cross Mission in Israel said Tuesday that it would inform its Swiss headquarters about the allegations and seek to clarify the questions raised.

Israel has acknowledged hitting the building, and said 150 Katyushas had been fired from the village in the previous 20 days, with Hizbullah hiding rocket launchers in civilian buildings there. Israel said it did not know civilians were inside the building and expressed sorrow over the tragedy.

In a speech on Monday night, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he deeply regretted the deaths of civilians there. "We did not seek to harm them, we did not want their death," he said. "They were not our enemies, they were not the target of our aircraft."

At a press conference on Sunday night, Air Force Chief of Staff Brig.-Gen. Amir Eshel said the building was struck by IAF missiles a little after midnight, but only collapsed seven hours later, at about 7 a.m.

Eshel said he could not explain what caused the structure to collapse so many hours after it was hit, and speculated, while stressing that he had no conclusive evidence, about whether Hizbullah had played a role in what had transpired, perhaps by firing on the building itself. [...]

According to the blogs, perhaps the most suspicious element in the Kana affair was the fact that the dead children whose photographs appeared in the media displayed virtually no signs of blood, bruises or broken bones and, with one exception, were not caked with debris or pulverized cement.

For example, according to the antiliberal Conservative Yankee blog, "The child in the photo shows no signs of injuries - no blood, no disfigurement or crushing wounds consistent with a building collapse. The two men [carrying the child] show no signs of having been digging in rubble. Their clothes are unbelievably clean, especially the black fatigues that would so easily shown concrete dust."

Israel Insider cited a CNN report that, it said, noted the victims had died in their sleep. It seemed highly improbable, the piece asserted, that people could have slept "through thunderous Israeli air attacks. Rescue workers equipped with cameras," it went on, "were removing the bodies from the same opening in the collapsed structure.

Journalists were not allowed near the collapsed building... Israelis steeled to scenes of carnage from Palestinian suicide bombings and Hizbullah rocket attacks could not help but notice that these victims did not look like our victims. Their faces were ashen gray. While medical examination is clearly called for to arrive at a definitive dating and cause of their deaths, they do not appear to have died hours before. The bodies looked like they had been dead for days."

 

[dmp]

The initial posts about attitudes regarding israel, muslims and jews.



I didn't make it about jews ok. It started off that way. So stop hallucinating and get reasonable.

Israel was an EXAMPLE of the point of the article. You and your conspiracy-driven hatred forced the conversation to be Jewcentric. Give it a rest. The TOPIC is "World Opinion is Worthelss".

YOU are turning this, and most topics in which you participate into "I hate JEWS"

Knock it off.

 

[Said1]

How dare you point the finger at innocent bagels. Don't hate them because they're delicious.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Israel was an EXAMPLE of the point of the article. You and your conspiracy-driven hatred forced the conversation to be Jewcentric. Give it a rest. The TOPIC is "World Opinion is Worthelss".

YOU are turning this, and most topics in which you participate into "I hate JEWS"

Knock it off.

It's about the world's opinion on israel and the jews and the current conflict.


I didn't make it about jews. I'm sorry, that's the truth.

 

[theHawk]

So its ok to hate Islam, but not Judaism? Both religions reject Christ as Lord. Both have major problems.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

How dare you point the finger at innocent bagels. Don't hate them because they're delicious.

It's nice to see someone around here has maintained a sense of humor! Thanks for not being batshit crazy, said1.

 

[dmp]

It's about the world's opinion on israel and the jews and the current conflict.


I didn't make it about jews. I'm sorry, that's the truth.

That's not 'the' truth, that's YOUR truth. The Article mentions many other people; yet uses Irsrael as an 'exmaple' of how World Opinion doesn't matter. When you see the words "Israel" or "Jews" you salivate and go on the attack.

 

[theHawk]

Oh and just because one is less insane than the other, doesn't mean I should "support" it, meaning fighting a war on their behalf and dying for them.
No thanks, this is not my war.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

That's not 'the' truth, that's YOUR truth. The Article mentions many other people; yet uses Irsrael as an 'exmaple' of how World Opinion doesn't matter. When you see the words "Israel" or "Jews" you salivate and go on the attack.

I'm sorry. It is the truth. The article is about the jews, at least in part. This is hardly a hijack, mr. sputter.

"stop it, just stop it" -- :rotflmao:

 

[dmp]

I'm sorry. It is the truth. The article is about the jews, at least in part. This is hardly a hijack, mr. sputter.

"stop it, just stop it" -- :rotflmao:

There are 15 other countries/peoples mentioned in the OP - since you won't stop on your own accord, I've removed you from the thread. Stop fighting me. Stop fighting the Mods of this forum. We won't have paitence for your rants forever.

 

[Bonnie]

How dare you point the finger at innocent bagels. Don't hate them because they're delicious.

Whole wheat bagels rule the bagel world

 

[red states rule]

I'm sorry. It is the truth. The article is about the jews, at least in part. This is hardly a hijack, mr. sputter.

"stop it, just stop it" -- :rotflmao:

http://newsbusters.org/node/6673
Disproportionate Reporting, Selective Outrage
Posted by Jack Engelhard on July 31, 2006 - 18:27.
You’d hardly know that all of Israel is under siege. The networks would rather you stay tuned to their pictures from Lebanon. According to ABC-TV, CNN and other “Friends of Hezbollah”, never mind who started this, and forget the million and a half Israelis who’ve been made homeless.

As usual, NPR Radio is serving as propaganda minister for terror and, also as usual, Israel is at war with the press.

Or rather, the press is at war with Israel.

Any mention of the 200 bombs falling on Israel from day to night? Hardly. What about the thousands of Israelis wounded in flesh and in spirit – meaning shell-shocked today and perhaps for the rest of their lives? No, there’s no time for this. Forget Haifa’s Rambam Hospital. The pictures from Lebanon are better, much better than pictures from Meron, Israel, where seven-year-old Omer Pesachov was murdered along with his grandmother as the result of Hezbollah missiles.

But leave it to the New York Times to cynically portray itself as dispassionate and neutral. On July 27 it ran a story – “Tide of Arab Opinion Turns To Support For Hezbollah” – that subtly, as subtle as a snake, makes the argument that Israel is at fault for failing to make friends and influence people.

We are asked to believe that because of the IDF’s “disproportionate response”, Israel’s terrific friends in Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- well, they are friends no more. Yes, that’s the gist of this piece, that at the outset, Israel had the Arab world on its side, but then those Jews did something bad. They got serious about defending themselves.

Therefore, if only those Israelis would quit fighting back, think of all the friends they would have.

Even Mel Gibson might come around.

Memo to the New York Times: Saudi Arabia was never a friend of Israel and neither was Egypt. Please, not all of us are so stupid. Quick question to all those reporting from over there: How do you know those casualties in Lebanon are “civilian?” Has this been verified by your fact-checkers, or are you simply buying Hezbollah as a reliable source?

Another memo: Your reporters keep saying that Hezbollah may be bad news, but they do provide social and humanitarian services to the Lebanese. Really? You have seen these schools and hospitals you say Hezbollah builds and maintains? Are these facts, or do these scoops arrive at your desk from the Hezbollah ministry of information? NBC’s emotional Richard Engel, for example, who praises Hezbollah for its (alleged) humanitarian deeds, makes no pretense of being impartial. He has plainly (or so it surely seems) thrown himself in with Hezbollah.

Thank you BBC and all other Hezbollah/Hamas cheerleaders for letting us know that Ehud Olmert has apologized for Qana. But you may have noted that Hezbollah routinely positions itself and its arms right there in the middle of the population. Even the UN’s Jan Egeland has called them cowards for hiding among women and children. (This was carried by FOX.)

But obviously, Islamic terrorists never have to say they’re sorry.

Someone, somewhere, did (reluctantly) concede that Hamas and Hezbollah do their dirty work behind human shields.

Such as the news media, perhaps?

 

[Said1]

Whole wheat bagels rule the bagel world

I prefer flax seed. Either way, they're much better than plain old white bread. It's all a part of the consipiracy.

 

[Bonnie]

I prefer flax seed. Either way, they're much better than plain old white bread. It's all a part of the consipiracy.

True which is why I like to keep my bagels very mulitcultural and politically correct

 

[CSM]

I prefer flax seed. Either way, they're much better than plain old white bread. It's all a part of the consipiracy.

Hey if plain old white bread was good enough for our forefathers it's good enough for me! You think bagels are somethng special just because they get rounded up and shoved through an oven, well white bread goes through an oven too, ya know.