Without COAL some will be in the dark!!!

[strollingbones]

anyone here every had coal heat? a coal burning stove.....i have...its nasty..inside and out....but it will heat a house...

 

[flacaltenn]

1) You didn't read ANY of the links provided because CALI says burning municipal waste "PROVIDES A SOURCE OF CLEAN ENERGY".. Stop wasting my time...

How about you stop pretending your strawmen and red herrings represent some kind of liberal opinion?

I see the actual liberals opposing garbage burning. You even gave us some links to the liberals opposing garbage burning. Can you make up your mind and pick one side to argue?

2) This technology was SOLD as Clean and Green and ended up burning ship just like a garbage incinerator and the fuel streams INCLUDE tires.

Which would have nothing to do with liberals. It's not the liberals building the trash burners. So your whole argument goes boom.

3) I DON'T agree that it's impossible to burn coal or trash cleanly. We might never KNOW how far you can push that limit because regulations won't allow EXperimentation with Clean Coal or Clean incineration.. SOMEONE will do it. And it won't be IN AMERICA.. And you and all your ecofraud buddies will wonder why it didn't happen here.

Ah, invoking magical future technology. Why not just scream that liberals are blocking fusion power? Same difference.

4) You still didn't answer the questions..

You just don't like the answers.

All you've shown is that somebody pulled a bait and switch. Then you pulled a bait and switch, declared it was the liberals doing it.

The Greenies LOVED biomass conversion -- til they saw what it ACTUALLY was.. They are easily duped. Much like you.. Are you trying to tell me that "biomass conversion" is NOT listed on almost EVERY list of "Alternative Energy" sources?? That would be downright ignorant of you. In fact, LEFTISTS ARE the ones pushing that list..

As in the Dem party...

Democratic Party on Energy Oil


Harnessing American ingenuity to create renewable energy. Our plan begins with commonsense investments to harness the natural world around us-the sun, wind, water, geothermal and biomass sources, and a rich array of crops-to create a new generation of affordable energy for the 21st century. We support tax credits for private sector investment in clean, renewable sources of energy, and we will make ethanol credits work better for farmers.

Whoops there it WAS !!!! Not a figment or a herring anymore.. And weren't you telling everyone just the other day that ETHANOL was a RightWing GOP deal ???

If Coal is to be hunted to extinction --- then BIOMASS needs to be dropped from the list of phoney "alternatives". And if fracking continues to be stymied despite the research on risks -- then perhaps geothermal ought to come off that list as well. Considering the bragging about "renewable content" is STILL bolstered by LARGE Hydro, which is another Green idea gone sour --- That "list" is getting kinda tiny..

We got ourselves into a Mexican standoff on energy policy here. Who's gonna blink before the body bags come out???

 

[flacaltenn]

Ah, invoking magical future technology. Why not just scream that liberals are blocking fusion power? Same difference.

4) You still didn't answer the questions..

You just don't like the answers.

All you've shown is that somebody pulled a bait and switch. Then you pulled a bait and switch, declared it was the liberals doing it.

Oh.. Sorry.. I thought Invoking Future Magical Technology was the PREFERRED leftist method of discussing "alternatives"..

Thought it was always the #1 response to any criticism of wind,solar,tidal,dung conversion deal that they favor.

 

[mamooth]

Coal isn't outlawed. Anything can be burned, if you do it cleanly enough. Now there's a market to find out how.

True free markets, however, seem to be a liberal thing. Conservatives are more interested in subsidizing bad tech by allowing its users to pass off the pollution costs on to others, which distorts the free market.

 

[skookerasbil]

Coal isn't outlawed. Anything can be burned, if you do it cleanly enough. Now there's a market to find out how.

True free markets, however, seem to be a liberal thing. Conservatives are more interested in subsidizing bad tech by allowing its users to pass off the pollution costs on to others, which distorts the free market.

nobody cares s0n!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

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[jc456]

That's your story? That tree/brush burning at a coal plant would put no toxics or particulates or noxious gases into the air and the ASH would be free of contaminants.

No, it seems to be your story, so don't expect me to defend it.

You're quite talented at making these strawmen.

Lose

 

[jc456]

anyone here every had coal heat? a coal burning stove.....i have...its nasty..inside and out....but it will heat a house...

You really think they exist today really?

 

[strollingbones]

sure there are....coal stoves are still used in places where coal is easy to get....

 

[jc456]

sure there are....coal stoves are still used in places where coal is easy to get....

Where?

 

[KissMy]

Coal power plants can capture carbon & sell it to EOR Oil production companies that can use it to increase oil production & profits by more than the cost of CO2 capture tech & operation at the Coal Power Plant.

The USA has been slashing carbon emissions big time. We have slashed them 30% without draconian hit to lifestyles. China is the problem!

 

[skookerasbil]

Coal power plants can capture carbon & sell it to EOR Oil production companies that can use it to increase oil production & profits by more than the cost of CO2 capture tech & operation at the Coal Power Plant.

The USA has been slashing carbon emissions big time. We have slashed them 30% without draconian hit to lifestyles. China is the problem!

Not nearly good enough for the AGW nutters. Fossil fuels must go in order to more quickly herd the sheep. When you bury the middle class with energy costs, you drive them down into the lower class and government dependency.......always what this climate change shit has been about since the beginning. Radical progressives make it very clear in their manifesto's. All these carbon trading schemes are about wealth redistribution and most of the AGW phonies know it too, although I do think there are some that are just head in the clouds naïve to understand. They think its about the environment. Its pretty damn fascinating.

 

[jc456]

Coal power plants can capture carbon & sell it to EOR Oil production companies that can use it to increase oil production & profits by more than the cost of CO2 capture tech & operation at the Coal Power Plant.

The USA has been slashing carbon emissions big time. We have slashed them 30% without draconian hit to lifestyles. China is the problem!

Not nearly good enough for the AGW nutters. Fossil fuels must go in order to more quickly herd the sheep. When you bury the middle class with energy costs, you drive them down into the lower class and government dependency.......always what this climate change shit has been about since the beginning. Radical progressives make it very clear in their manifesto's. All these carbon trading schemes are about wealth redistribution and most of the AGW phonies know it too, although I do think there are some that are just head in the clouds naïve to understand. They think its about the environment. Its pretty damn fascinating.

Frank has the quote from the IPCC guy that admits it. Can't get it any simpler than just admitting it.

 

[skookerasbil]

Coal power plants can capture carbon & sell it to EOR Oil production companies that can use it to increase oil production & profits by more than the cost of CO2 capture tech & operation at the Coal Power Plant.

The USA has been slashing carbon emissions big time. We have slashed them 30% without draconian hit to lifestyles. China is the problem!

Not nearly good enough for the AGW nutters. Fossil fuels must go in order to more quickly herd the sheep. When you bury the middle class with energy costs, you drive them down into the lower class and government dependency.......always what this climate change shit has been about since the beginning. Radical progressives make it very clear in their manifesto's. All these carbon trading schemes are about wealth redistribution and most of the AGW phonies know it too, although I do think there are some that are just head in the clouds naïve to understand. They think its about the environment. Its pretty damn fascinating.

Frank has the quote from the IPCC guy that admits it. Can't get it any simpler than just admitting it.

Hey Frank.......how about that quote link!!! You know my mantra.........when you're making them look like fools, pile on!!!!