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Will Republicans win 2016?
- Thread starter Drang nach Osten
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Way way WAY too early to even guess. We don't even know who's running.
Also, elections are much like sports playoffs, in that "momentum is everything". Whoever peaks at the right time will win.
Now you may get speculation on who will try to run and how they will do in that selection process, which we call a "primary". But that doesn't happen until 2016.
Also, elections are much like sports playoffs, in that "momentum is everything". Whoever peaks at the right time will win.
Now you may get speculation on who will try to run and how they will do in that selection process, which we call a "primary". But that doesn't happen until 2016.
By the way you have a mixed comparison in your OP: "Republicans or Liberals". Those are not opposites. I think you mean Republican or Democrat.
-- which are, unfortunately, the only party we have. A single party that dresses up alternately in red or blue so that we're supposed to think they're different from each other.
-- which are, unfortunately, the only party we have. A single party that dresses up alternately in red or blue so that we're supposed to think they're different from each other.
Probably not!
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By the way you have a mixed comparison in your OP: "Republicans or Liberals". Those are not opposites. I think you mean Republican or Democrat.
-- which are, unfortunately, the only party we have. A single party that dresses up alternately in red or blue so that we're supposed to think they're different from each other.
Sure they are. Liberals DON'T have their heads up their asses.
hipeter924
Not a zombie yet
Depends on the candidates.
If Clinton wins the Democratic Presidental nomination, I will probably vote Republican, as I see her as tied into corporate interests as much as her husband.
Republicans stand a chance of either losing the House or the Senate, simply out of public distrust for both political parties.
If Clinton wins the Democratic Presidental nomination, I will probably vote Republican, as I see her as tied into corporate interests as much as her husband.
Republicans stand a chance of either losing the House or the Senate, simply out of public distrust for both political parties.
ChrisL
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How do you think and who would you vote?
Well what if I don't want to vote for either democrats or republicans?
I would rather vote for a 3rd party candidate (but not one of those from one of the crazy fringe groups).
Saigon
Gold Member
For the Republicans to win, they need to come to terms with their own extremism.
On a thread the other day, one right wing poster claimed that there were no conservatives in Europe, only left and more left. This is obviously stupid, but also illustrative of how the right wing in America has lost its compass. There is the belief that "We are moderate, reasonable people" and that everyone else is a socialist.
This is why the GOP loses elections.
Ultimately the centre will not vote for anti-abortion, anti-immigration, anti-science, anti-gay marriage, anti-obamacare, but for positive ideas and policies.
The GOP needs to split from the Tea Party, and continue as a moderate conservative party - the kind that win elections in the UK, Australia, NZ, Germany and elsewhere.
On a thread the other day, one right wing poster claimed that there were no conservatives in Europe, only left and more left. This is obviously stupid, but also illustrative of how the right wing in America has lost its compass. There is the belief that "We are moderate, reasonable people" and that everyone else is a socialist.
This is why the GOP loses elections.
Ultimately the centre will not vote for anti-abortion, anti-immigration, anti-science, anti-gay marriage, anti-obamacare, but for positive ideas and policies.
The GOP needs to split from the Tea Party, and continue as a moderate conservative party - the kind that win elections in the UK, Australia, NZ, Germany and elsewhere.
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Darlene
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I would vote for a third party not listed in the poll. One that best represents my beliefs.
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If they continue to reach out to women and minorities, if they continue to not pick fights they cannot win, if they continue to refuse to listen to the far right.
Will Republicans win 2016?
Will Republicans win 2016?
Drang nach Osten
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I would vote for a third party not listed in the poll. One that best represents my beliefs.
Libertarians?
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Republicans will hold the House and lose the Senate and White House in 2016
That is a nice poster above. How did that work out for ya?
It's all about the candidates at the top of the ballot.
The Democrats have HUGE advantages going in. Large registration majorities in most states, hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and in-kind contributions from big unions and government employees, and all others with vested interests in sucking at the Government's teats, ALL media (entertainment, music, news) deeply in their back pocket, and they are continually and obviously trying to buy votes with taxpayers' money. What do you think Barry's amnesty plan is all about?
But if they put Hillary up for President, they will have pissed it all away.
The "common knowledge" in Democrat circles is that Barry brilliantly outfoxed her to win the nomination in 2008, but this is pure baloney. HRC COULD NOT WIN. During her entire public career, from being First Lady of Arkansas to being Senator from NY, to being Candidate #1, and even a Secretary of State, the more the public sees of her, the less they like her. Alfred E. Newman would have won the Democrat nomination in 2008 against HRC.
As long as the R's don't nominate John McCain they will win.
The Democrats have HUGE advantages going in. Large registration majorities in most states, hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and in-kind contributions from big unions and government employees, and all others with vested interests in sucking at the Government's teats, ALL media (entertainment, music, news) deeply in their back pocket, and they are continually and obviously trying to buy votes with taxpayers' money. What do you think Barry's amnesty plan is all about?
But if they put Hillary up for President, they will have pissed it all away.
The "common knowledge" in Democrat circles is that Barry brilliantly outfoxed her to win the nomination in 2008, but this is pure baloney. HRC COULD NOT WIN. During her entire public career, from being First Lady of Arkansas to being Senator from NY, to being Candidate #1, and even a Secretary of State, the more the public sees of her, the less they like her. Alfred E. Newman would have won the Democrat nomination in 2008 against HRC.
As long as the R's don't nominate John McCain they will win.
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I would vote for a third party not listed in the poll. One that best represents my beliefs.
What part of the following DOESN'T represent your beliefs?
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Republicans will hold the House and lose the Senate and White House in 2016
More Republican screwing of the middle class.
Is the middle class better off or worse now than the day Obama took office?Republicans will hold the House and lose the Senate and White House in 2016
More Republican screwing of the middle class.
Yeah, tell us about it. Dems are the party of fuck you.
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Is the middle class better off or worse now than the day Obama took office?
Yeah, tell us about it. Dems are the party of fuck you.
The middle class has yet to recover from the 2008 BushCo/Republican/corporate America/wall street screwing.
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Good questionIs the middle class better off or worse now than the day Obama took office?Republicans will hold the House and lose the Senate and White House in 2016
More Republican screwing of the middle class.
Yeah, tell us about it. Dems are the party of fuck you.
Where were we before Obama became President?
The middle class was being layed off at 770,000 jobs a month. We have added 200,000 or more a month all year now.....that is a million jobs a month difference
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