Will anyone hold the media accountable for lying about Hawaii "warming?"

[EMH]

The media is actually supposed to do more than just parrot lies. It is supposed to investigate. This one isn't that hard. It takes 10 minutes max...


The media claims the Maui fire is the result of "warming." Well, has Hawaii actually warmed, and was it warm this summer?? NO and NO...

RIGHT HERE

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

coolweather.net

record high temp 100F in 1931

record high temp for Honolulu 95F in 1994


So, NO, by historical standards, Hawaii is NOT WARMING...


What about this summer, was it warm in Hawaii? NO...

Honolulu, HI Monthly Weather Forecast - weather.com

Weather.com brings you the most accurate monthly weather forecast for Honolulu, HI with average/record and high/low temperatures, precipitation and more.

weather.com

Hilariously enough, the first time Honolulu broke 85F for August was today, AFTER the fires...

Honolulu has not gotten to 90F this summer....




So the media claims the fires were caused by "warming," but.... THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WARMING IN HAWAII


Will anyone notice...???

 

[Moonglow]

I do believe they are busy with a fire that happened.

 

[EMH]

I do believe they are busy with a fire that happened.

global warming caused maui fire - Google Search

If they are going to claim that Global "warming" caused the fire, they must first show that Hawaii has warmed, and the problem is that Hawaii has NOT WARMED...

Funny, they claim the Pacific Ocean is "warming," but clearly if the Pacific Ocean was "warming" so would Hawaii....

 

[DudleySmith]

The fire is already being blamed on the local power company.

 

[jotathought]

I do believe they are busy with a fire that happened.

Hawaii is a thing of the past to the media ... nothing to see here anymore.

 

[jotathought]

The fire is already being blamed on the local power company.

... and 100% human failure .. including government and bureaucracy that escalated the incident.

 

[EMH]

The fire is already being blamed on the local power company.

This island chain regularly has molten lava pouring down into the ocean, torching wet trees and plants.... but NEVER BURNING THE WHOLE ISLAND.

THE ISLAND WAS DRY, HISTORICALLY UNPRECEDENTED.

WHY was it dry?

Warming - sorry, got none


Population explosion of humans sucking finite fresh water supplies??

Hawaii population

1890 - under 100k
today - 1.5 million

More and more humans continuously suck fresh water from the water sources, ground water etc. and there was a number of humans on Maui that Maui could support by annual rainfall, but that point was passed years ago, and the fresh water supply reached the point where the human consumption was draining it....


WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!!

THESE FIRES ARE REAL AND WARMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

THE QUICK SOLUTION IS DESALINATION OF OCEAN WATER, but that is a BAND AID over the problem of human overpopulation.



What did Hawaii do?

It's DEMOCRAT leaders sold its land, made $$$$, packed Maui with humans, and paid no attention to the fresh water supply, same as on the MAINLAND.


WE EITHER DEAL WITH THESE FIRES NOW OR THEY WILL GET WORSE ON A PLANET NOT WARMING AT ALL

 

[alang1216]

Funny, they claim the Pacific Ocean is "warming," but clearly if the Pacific Ocean was "warming" so would Hawaii....

Your 'clearly' is based on what? Your gut? Clearly it is not based on actual data:

Yes, the ocean is continuing to warm. Notably, all ocean basins have been experiencing significant warming since 1998, with more heat being transferred deeper into the ocean since 1990.​

To date, the ocean contains 90 percent of the heat from human-induced global warming, and the year 2020 was the warmest ever measured for the global ocean.​

​

Your are welcome to dispute the "human-induced" part but the numbers are real and measurable. It is called science, look it up.

 

[MaryL]

The media is actually supposed to do more than just parrot lies. It is supposed to investigate. This one isn't that hard. It takes 10 minutes max...


The media claims the Maui fire is the result of "warming." Well, has Hawaii actually warmed, and was it warm this summer?? NO and NO...

RIGHT HERE

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

coolweather.net

record high temp 100F in 1931

record high temp for Honolulu 95F in 1994


So, NO, by historical standards, Hawaii is NOT WARMING...


What about this summer, was it warm in Hawaii? NO...

Honolulu, HI Monthly Weather Forecast - weather.com

Weather.com brings you the most accurate monthly weather forecast for Honolulu, HI with average/record and high/low temperatures, precipitation and more.

weather.com

Hilariously enough, the first time Honolulu broke 85F for August was today, AFTER the fires...

Honolulu has not gotten to 90F this summer....




So the media claims the fires were caused by "warming," but.... THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WARMING IN HAWAII


Will anyone notice...???

I wouldn't know. But I also know that Hawaii and particularly, Maui as a problem with invasive species of plant that cause a high fire risk. That Democrat leaders ignored that. It's almost like democrat leaders don't know what they are doing, they just push superficial agendas.

 

[mamooth]

The media has done a good job of explaining it. They write at a sixth-grade level, which is why EMH here has a problem.

Summary: It's not the temp, it's the precipitation. As the climate warms, it gets drier in the rain shadows, which is where Maui is.

Analysis â Hawaii’s climate future: Dry regions get drier with global warming, increasing fire risk

(THE CONVERSATION) The islands of Hawaii are world renowned for their generally pleasant and tranquil weather. However, the Aug. 8, 2023, wildfire tragedy on Maui was a stark reminder that Hawaii also can experience drought and hot, dry, windy weather, providing the conditions for destructive...

www.mauinews.com

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And yes, Hawaii is warming. Those who didn't subsist on a steady diet of paint chips as a child understand that a single hight temperature reading does not describe a temperature trend.

My favorite stupid part from EMH? His claim that humans had sucked all the moisture out of the vegetation. That boy just ain't right.

 

[DukeU]

To date, the ocean contains 90 percent of the heat from human-induced global warming, and the year 2020 was the warmest ever measured for the global ocean.

How far back do these measurements go?

 

[EMH]

Your 'clearly' is based on what? Your gut? Clearly it is not based on actual data:

Yes, the ocean is continuing to warm. Notably, all ocean basins have been experiencing significant warming since 1998, with more heat being transferred deeper into the ocean since 1990.​

To date, the ocean contains 90 percent of the heat from human-induced global warming, and the year 2020 was the warmest ever measured for the global ocean.​

​

Your are welcome to dispute the "human-induced" part but the numbers are real and measurable. It is called science, look it up.

PARROTING is NOT science
FRAUD is NOT science
FUDGING DATA is NOT science

The laughable flaw in the FUDGE of ocean temps is hurricanes. Hurricanes are directly correlated to ocean temperatures. If oceans were warming, there would be a breakout in cane activity. That is not happening. The record decade for canes is still the 1940s despite decades of lying about "ocean warming" that never existed in the actual data....

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

The DATA regarding the issue of whether Hawaii

A) has or has not been "warming" for decades

and

B) did Hawaii have a warm summer


answers NO and NO, no matter what left wing science invalid parroting morons with beaked birdbrains bawk....

 

[EMH]

How far back do these measurements go?

It is all fudge and fraud. All the "warming" in the atmosphere is not actually in the atmosphere (despite Co2 rising in the atmosphere) according to highly correlated satellite and balloon data. So the "warming" from Co2 in the atmosphere, never mind the atmosphere is not warming, is actually under the ocean and under the ice of Antarctica... seriously... THAT is what the Co2 FRAUD now claims.... on a planet with


NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT in CANES

 

[EMH]

Hawaii is warming.

The claim of "warming" actually requires an INCREASE in TEMPERATURE, and as the OP documents, your Co2 FRAUD side lacks that minor thing...

As for understanding the dynamics of fresh water on land, there is intake - rain and snow, and outflow - nature + humans

When you keep increasing what humans take out of nature, you reach a point where you exceed the intake, and then the long term storage of freshwater on land starts to DRAIN... and when it drains, that is when it burns... Fires are about lack of water.



And it is hilarious that the Co2 FRAUD says that warming causes droughts and fires.... because the Co2 FRAUD also claims it causes floods... both...

A theory that can never be disproven is not a theory, it is a fraud....



Really easy to understand. X-Y graph : X axis temps, Y axis H2O in atmosphere


First point X - Earth with max surface temp of 30F - Y zero, all H2O is frozen
Second point - today
Third point Jurassic = WARMER and WETTER
Fourth point X - Earth with min surface temp of 220F - Y all H2O in atmosphere, you boiled out oceans


So, yeah, as Earth warms, it gets wetter, not drier, which is why....

jurassic warmer wetter - Google Search

 

[EMH]

Maui as a problem with invasive species of plant that cause a high fire risk.

RFKjr noted that.

Leading suspect = the Co2 fraud, trying to claim there is "warming" on Hawaii without any actual WARMING.... burn it down and lie lie lie!!!!

 

[alang1216]

How far back do these measurements go?

actual data

 

[alang1216]

It is all fudge and fraud. All the "warming" in the atmosphere is not actually in the atmosphere (despite Co2 rising in the atmosphere) according to highly correlated satellite and balloon data. So the "warming" from Co2 in the atmosphere, never mind the atmosphere is not warming, is actually under the ocean and under the ice of Antarctica... seriously... THAT is what the Co2 FRAUD now claims.... on a planet with


NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT in CANES

Where did you get these statements from? They seem to conflict with reality.

 

[alang1216]

PARROTING is NOT science
FRAUD is NOT science
FUDGING DATA is NOT science

The laughable flaw in the FUDGE of ocean temps is hurricanes. Hurricanes are directly correlated to ocean temperatures. If oceans were warming, there would be a breakout in cane activity. That is not happening. The record decade for canes is still the 1940s despite decades of lying about "ocean warming" that never existed in the actual data....

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

The DATA regarding the issue of whether Hawaii

A) has or has not been "warming" for decades

and

B) did Hawaii have a warm summer


answers NO and NO, no matter what left wing science invalid parroting morons with beaked birdbrains bawk....

 

[MarathonMike]

The media is actually supposed to do more than just parrot lies. It is supposed to investigate. This one isn't that hard. It takes 10 minutes max...


The media claims the Maui fire is the result of "warming." Well, has Hawaii actually warmed, and was it warm this summer?? NO and NO...

RIGHT HERE

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

coolweather.net

record high temp 100F in 1931

record high temp for Honolulu 95F in 1994


So, NO, by historical standards, Hawaii is NOT WARMING...


What about this summer, was it warm in Hawaii? NO...

Honolulu, HI Monthly Weather Forecast - weather.com

Weather.com brings you the most accurate monthly weather forecast for Honolulu, HI with average/record and high/low temperatures, precipitation and more.

weather.com

Hilariously enough, the first time Honolulu broke 85F for August was today, AFTER the fires...

Honolulu has not gotten to 90F this summer....




So the media claims the fires were caused by "warming," but.... THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WARMING IN HAWAII


Will anyone notice...???

Democrats and powerful Globalists control TV and social media. Who would hold media accountable?

 

[EMH]

In reality, this is what happens when the Co2 FRAUD gets to paint data and lie.

This is the actual hurricane data before your side made a color fudge chart, and one of the reasons why is the satellites went up in the 1970s, and before that we did not see storms that did not hit land...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

Hard to argue that oceans are "warming" when the record decade for canes is the 1940s, per the ACTUAL UNFUDGED data...