Why the MSM Reporting Can't Be Trusted or Believed

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  1. Adam's Apple

    Adam's Apple Senior Member

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    Iraq, Vietnam, the MSM & Dan Rather
    By Jack Kelly, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    June 23, 2006

    Dan Rather's 44-year relationship with CBS News came to an unceremonious end this week. This should remind us that of the many differences between the Vietnam war and the war in Iraq, the three most important are talk radio, Fox News, and the Internet.

    Mr. Rather must think his fate unfair. He was in effect fired when the documents on which he based an expose of President Bush's National Guard service were shown to be clumsy forgeries. But Walter Cronkite, who told a much bigger lie, is still an esteemed figure at CBS.

    The one great similarity between Vietnam and Iraq is that our enemies, despairing of victory on the battlefield, sought to win with a propaganda campaign.

    In Vietnam, this strategy succeeded. If it fails in Iraq, it will be chiefly because of the emergence of the new media.

    The turning point in Vietnam was the Tet Offensive of February, 1968. It was a crushing defeat for the Viet Cong.

    "Our losses were staggering and a complete surprise," said North Vietnamese Army Col. Bui Tin in a 1995 interview. "Our forces in the South were nearly wiped out. It took until 1971 to re-establish our presence."

    "The Tet Offensive proved catastrophic to our plans," said Truong Nhu Tang, minister of justice in the Viet Cong's provisional government, in a 1982 interview. "Our losses were so immense we were unable to replace them with new recruits."

    The news media reported this overwhelming American victory as a catastrophic defeat.

    "Donning helmet, Mr. Cronkite declared the war lost," recounted UPI's Arnaud de Borchgrave. "It was this now famous television news piece that persuaded President Lyndon Johnson...not to run for re-election."

    Shaken by Tet, he planned to seek terms for a conditional surrender, the North Vietnamese commander, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, wrote in his memoirs. But our news media's complete misrepresentation of what had actually happened "convinced him America's resolve was weakening and complete victory was within Hanoi's grasp," Mr. de Borchgrave said.

    Journalists are repeating in Iraq the errors (or worse) they made in Vietnam. Earlier this month, the Army sponsored a conference for retired general officers at Fort Carson, Colorado. They were addressed by recent returnees from Iraq, including Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment.

    "All returnees agreed we are clearly winning the fight against the insurgents but are losing the public relations battle," said a retired admiral in an email to friends.

    A disturbing anecdote from Col. McMaster illustrates why. His 3rd ACR broke the insurgents' hold of the city of Tal Afar last September in an operation which generated these effusive words of praise from the town's mayor:

    "To the lion hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets...(you are) not only courageous men and women, but avenging angels sent by The God Himself to fight the evil of terrorism."

    Time Magazine had a reporter and a photographer embedded with the 3rd ACR. When the battle was over, they filed a lengthy story and nearly 100 photographs.

    "When the issue came out, the guts had been edited out of the reporter's story and none of the photographs he submitted were used," said the admiral, quoting Col. McMaster. "When the reporter questioned why his story was eviscerated, his editors...responded that the story and pictures were 'too heroic.'"

    Time is an especially egregious offender. But most of the news media play up alleged American atrocities and play down those committed by the insurgents, or acts of heroism by U.S. troops. Terrorist bombings are big news, while successful campaigns like that in Tal Afar are not.

    The relentless drumbeat of negativity has had its effect on support for the war in Iraq. But it's been nothing like the change in public opinion brought about by the massive media mendacity that followed Tet. That's because in those days journalists could lie with impunity. This is no longer the case.

    No one knows that better than Dan Rather. He was undone because a Web logger noticed the memoranda on which he was relying had been typed on a computer, which did not exist at the time they allegedly were written.

    Others noted the fraudulent memos used the wrong format and terminology. Thanks to the Web, word spread fast.

    The truth still has a ways to go to catch up with what the news media are shoveling out. But at least now it's in the race.

  2. red states rule

    red states rule Senior Member

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    Why do you think Fox News is kicking the crap out of CNN and MSNBC?

    Folks are seeing the liberal media for what they really are

    That is why they are losing viewers and readers and Fox, Rush, and Sean are gaining
  3. Annie

    Annie Diamond Member

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    FOX News is more mainstream than not; the difference being they will give both sides their opportunity to put forth their POV; the alternative media are those that go out, financed by themselves or others to report what the MSM isn't. They are backed up by the other blogs, for both 'getting their words out' and encouragement for financing. See Bill Roggio, Michael Yon, and many others, easily found by milbloggers sites.

    Many, though not most of the blogs, also serve as an alternative media source. For those of us that bother to read them, which means reading through many that are garbage, finding those that can 'back up' what they say, there is a wealth of experience to be found. There are many that are currently serving in theater-see milbloggers. There are many that have been in intelligence with military, state, or CIA/FBI. Yes, many claim, few can deliver. These are the ones that the MSM is most in fear of. These are those that many on the left are trying to dismiss, but it won't happen. Simply because, there is a record. Even the left can track that.

    Then their are bloggers that have no ties to mil or gov, but by their posts, people serving in a variety of positions, will email and once in awhile you can find 'hints.' One can find this on sites like Instapundit, LGF, The Corner, Captain's Quarter, Kos, and Michelle Malkin.

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