Why Obamacare Will Make You Poorer

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    Why Obamacare Will Make You Poorer

    This video is short, easy to understand, sourced, and to the point. This is exactly how Obamacare will make you and your country poorer. And just like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and all the other government entitlement programs, it too will drowned us with debt no matter how the CBO scores it and no matter what any liberal here will tell you U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time . Enjoy!

    Redistribution of Wealth in its Purest Form.

    Without Obamacare
    Average Cost of Health Insurance Per Family: .................. $13,375
    Average Family Size: ..................................................... 3.1 people
    Average Per Person Cose of Health Insurance: ................. $4315

    With Obamacare
    Obamacare Cost: ........................................................... $871,000,000,000 to cover 31,000,000 Americans
    Average Per Person (Benificiary) Cost: ............................. $28,100
    Number of New Federal Programs: ................................... 111
    Average Federal Employee Pay Before Benefits: ................ $79,197
    Average Federal Employee Pay With Benefits: ................... $119,982 (59% Higher Than The Private Sector)

     
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    The only ones who will make out with Obamacare are those who don't have HC coverage now. They pay nothing now and will pay nothing with Obamcare.

    The losers will be those with coverage. We will pay high premiums to pay for all those without.

    I'm really looking forward to paying for other peoples HC. OH yes. NOT.
     
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    Newsflash: Those of us with insurance have been paying for people who don't have insurance for years now. The only thing that changes in that respect is how we pay for those uninsured people.
     
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    And, all those exempted from it.
     
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    If the above figures are correct the cost of covering those uninsured has more than doubled. so that old "we doing it anyway bullshit meme" is dumb.
     
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    Nah. I see where your going.

    Arguement 1: We need to force hospitals to care for thoes who cannot pay.
    Arguement 2: Hospitals cant affort to treat those who cannot pay
    Arguement 3: The Government needs to force people to pay for the healthcare of thoes who cannot pay. Thoes who can pay but refuse to do so must be forced to do so or face a fee lower than that of a normal healthcare plan. This ensures that everyone gets forced in to government sponsered healthcare because its cheaper than the regular plan. And since the government doesent need to make a profit we can put all the insurance companies out of business and implement socialized medicine at the expense of the tax payer.
    Arguement 4: The people are smoking, drinking, and eating too much. The government cannot afford this. We should tax alcohal, tobbaco, and unhealthy food more to compensate them for their lack of diciplen and sway them from buying junk food.
    Arguement 5: The people are living unhealthy lifestyles and eating too much. The government cannot afford this. We need to regulate the food intake of all Americans and force them to work out. Refusal to partisipate will be punished by jail or fine.
    Arguement 6: Now that our country isnt competitive in the world market and we are bankrupt because of all the "well intentioned" entitlement programs and regulations, no one can have or afford healthcare and we need a government to step in and regulate all aspects of our life from cradle to grave to make sure it does not happen again.

    Ask any old timer who was around befor government assisted healthcare and see how the prices skyrocked after. If you really want none of us to have healthcare you do this >>> http://www.usdebtclock.org/ Medicare liability. $77,000,000,000,000 . Prescription drug liability. $19,000,000,000,000 . Liability per taxpayer. $1,014,000. Not at all realistic. And thats not counting the money every family pais for healthcare before they get those entitlements. Welcome to reality. If you think that we can afford Obamacare always remember that liberals said the same thing about Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. Every time the government steps in to solve the ills of society they always do the exact oppisite of what they set out for. You cant afford healthcare? Thats none of my consern!
     
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    Argument: I guess it comes down to a simple question of, do you think you should be denied health care in the country if you can not afford it.

    If you say yes, then we really have nothing else to discuss.

    If you say no, we discuss how do we best pay for it. Which is what this legislation is about.
     
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    Well at least you admit this makes most of us worse off.
     
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    It depends. WHY can't 'you' afford it?
     

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