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yOU STATED, "You are indeed lost and will continue to be lost because you work way too hard to prove the opposite of what is true. During all of the exiles, there never ceased to be a Jewish presence on the Land of Israel. It is recorded in history, but you only cared for the title where it looked as if ALL JEWS were forever banned from the land of Israel for the past 2000 years."
NOT SO.
YOU STATED.
“When the Greek invaded, the Jews were there.
When the Romans invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Byzantine Greek invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Kurdish Muslims invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Arab Muslims invaded and opened Jerusalem again FOR the Jews, the Jews were still there. When the Crusaders invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Ottomans invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the Jews were still there.
When the British took over the Iraq and Palestine Mandates post WWI, the Jews were still there.“
“THE JEWS WERE THERE. BUT SO WERE MANY OTHER RACES, GROUPS CALL THEM WHAT YOU WILL AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP.
TO SUGGEST THAT SOME JEWS HAD NEVER LEFT THE AREA IN YOUR ATTEMPT TO LEGITAMISE JEWISH OWNERSHIP OF THE AREA RAISES THE QUESTION. “IF THAT IS THE CASE WHY DID THEY NOT SIMPLY RETURN AND WHY DID THE ZIONISTS WORK SO HARD TO CONVINCE THE BRITISH TO GRANT THEM A RETURN WHICH EVENTUALLY OCCURRED VIA BALFOUR.”
Work as hard as you like to delegitimize the rights of the Jewish people to be on their own land, and recreate their ancient Nation ON their ancient homeland, all you like, I know for sure that no "evidence" to what we say will ever satisfy you because you are not here to be shown evidence that you are 1 Million Percent Wrong.
Perpetual victimhood. So on and so forth.
We know very well where you have achieved all of your knowledge and need to use those phrases.
PRAY TELL ME WHERE DID I ACHIEVE MY KNOWLEDGE?
In other words. You did not come here to discuss but to PROVE that you are right and prove how you can delegitimize those "Europeans" who dared to invade "Palestine" and take it away from the "Palestinians.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT POINT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE. HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE OCCUPIERS OF PALESTINE FOR 400 YEARS PRIOR TO THEM LOSING THE 1ST WORLD WAR WERE THE OTTAMAN EMPIRE UNTILL THEY WERE DEFEATED UPON WHICH THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS TOOK IT OVER ISSUING A NUMBER OF MANDATES.
You have chosen to believe in that nightmare of delusion and even the belief that you have any business with this war between Israel and the Muslim world, that is your problem and no one else's.
YOU NOW APPEAR TO BE STATING THAT A WAR EXISTS BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE MUSLIM WORLD. BRAVE WORDS.
And you even believe that if you come over any forum and belittle and delegitimize Israel and anyone who defends its existence and actions to defend itself and its population (all of it, not just Jews) you will feel good about yourself and can be proud of yourself, even if you do not achieve anything. Which is something you already knew was going to happen.
WHENEVER I DISCUSS OR DEBATE I NEVER STOOP TO BELITTLE ANYONE. ISRAEL BELITTLES ITSELF BY ITS TREATMENT OF THE PALESTINIANS.
Your beliefs were set, long before you asked that question in the other forum and over here in order to find people who agreed with you, or pro Israelis who were definitely not going to agree with the miseducation you have subjected yourself to this point in your life.
AS SOMEONE WHO WATCHES THE NEWS I CAN DO NONE OTHER THAN ADMIT TO BELIEVING THAT THE WAY ISRAEL HAS MADE THE PALESTINIANS SUFFER IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I SIMPLY WANTED TO ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT SITUATION AROSE.
Can we educate you about the real history of the land, its people and all that happened in the past 2000 years and why Israel needed to be recreated, especially on its ancient homeland by descendants of its ancient people?
Of course not.
YOU MOST CERTAINELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
Your points of view, not facts, not history of the land, are abundantly clear.
PLEASE IDENTIFY WHICH OF MY POINTS OF VIEW ARE NOT FACTUAL.
Am Israel Chai !
The People of Israel Live !
YES, BUT DO THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE?
IN CONCLUSION, I'M WILLING TO DISCUSS THESE MATTERS WITH YOU BUT NOT IN THE UNSEEMLY MANNER YOU APPEAR TO WANT TO DO IT.
NOT SO.
YOU STATED.
“When the Greek invaded, the Jews were there.
When the Romans invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Byzantine Greek invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Kurdish Muslims invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Arab Muslims invaded and opened Jerusalem again FOR the Jews, the Jews were still there. When the Crusaders invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Ottomans invaded, the Jews were still there.
When the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the Jews were still there.
When the British took over the Iraq and Palestine Mandates post WWI, the Jews were still there.“
“THE JEWS WERE THERE. BUT SO WERE MANY OTHER RACES, GROUPS CALL THEM WHAT YOU WILL AND NONE OF THEM HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CLAIM OWNERSHIP.
TO SUGGEST THAT SOME JEWS HAD NEVER LEFT THE AREA IN YOUR ATTEMPT TO LEGITAMISE JEWISH OWNERSHIP OF THE AREA RAISES THE QUESTION. “IF THAT IS THE CASE WHY DID THEY NOT SIMPLY RETURN AND WHY DID THE ZIONISTS WORK SO HARD TO CONVINCE THE BRITISH TO GRANT THEM A RETURN WHICH EVENTUALLY OCCURRED VIA BALFOUR.”
Work as hard as you like to delegitimize the rights of the Jewish people to be on their own land, and recreate their ancient Nation ON their ancient homeland, all you like, I know for sure that no "evidence" to what we say will ever satisfy you because you are not here to be shown evidence that you are 1 Million Percent Wrong.
Perpetual victimhood. So on and so forth.
We know very well where you have achieved all of your knowledge and need to use those phrases.
PRAY TELL ME WHERE DID I ACHIEVE MY KNOWLEDGE?
In other words. You did not come here to discuss but to PROVE that you are right and prove how you can delegitimize those "Europeans" who dared to invade "Palestine" and take it away from the "Palestinians.
I’M NOT SURE WHAT POINT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE. HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE OCCUPIERS OF PALESTINE FOR 400 YEARS PRIOR TO THEM LOSING THE 1ST WORLD WAR WERE THE OTTAMAN EMPIRE UNTILL THEY WERE DEFEATED UPON WHICH THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS TOOK IT OVER ISSUING A NUMBER OF MANDATES.
You have chosen to believe in that nightmare of delusion and even the belief that you have any business with this war between Israel and the Muslim world, that is your problem and no one else's.
YOU NOW APPEAR TO BE STATING THAT A WAR EXISTS BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE MUSLIM WORLD. BRAVE WORDS.
And you even believe that if you come over any forum and belittle and delegitimize Israel and anyone who defends its existence and actions to defend itself and its population (all of it, not just Jews) you will feel good about yourself and can be proud of yourself, even if you do not achieve anything. Which is something you already knew was going to happen.
WHENEVER I DISCUSS OR DEBATE I NEVER STOOP TO BELITTLE ANYONE. ISRAEL BELITTLES ITSELF BY ITS TREATMENT OF THE PALESTINIANS.
Your beliefs were set, long before you asked that question in the other forum and over here in order to find people who agreed with you, or pro Israelis who were definitely not going to agree with the miseducation you have subjected yourself to this point in your life.
AS SOMEONE WHO WATCHES THE NEWS I CAN DO NONE OTHER THAN ADMIT TO BELIEVING THAT THE WAY ISRAEL HAS MADE THE PALESTINIANS SUFFER IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I SIMPLY WANTED TO ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT SITUATION AROSE.
Can we educate you about the real history of the land, its people and all that happened in the past 2000 years and why Israel needed to be recreated, especially on its ancient homeland by descendants of its ancient people?
Of course not.
YOU MOST CERTAINELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
Your points of view, not facts, not history of the land, are abundantly clear.
PLEASE IDENTIFY WHICH OF MY POINTS OF VIEW ARE NOT FACTUAL.
Am Israel Chai !
The People of Israel Live !
YES, BUT DO THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE?
IN CONCLUSION, I'M WILLING TO DISCUSS THESE MATTERS WITH YOU BUT NOT IN THE UNSEEMLY MANNER YOU APPEAR TO WANT TO DO IT.