Why knowing what Mt. Of Olives Was is significant to the Jesus myth

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    what?
     
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    The sages in the Hebrew text describe the ESSENCE as Shalem (i.e. to progress to become more stable whole and complete)
    so in writing the text it's inspired by that Essence to manifest that nature in man to progress to all they could and should be, i.e. evolve.
    After all it says "Bind" in God (thus Essence), but Bind is missinterpreted as Wait on God thus throwing people off the meaning.
    Bind is liken to
    manifest. We reflect and manifest this nature to be all we could and should be.

    Judaism has always taught a firm ethic of working for a
    better world, not waiting or sitting expecting it to plop down and be handed to us.
    The mistake pagan religious societies
    make, is in waiting on G-d, as seen in their
    misstranslation of the term in the bible which meant
    “Bind” in G-d (not wait on G-d). This waiting causes society to neglect the work that must be done in order to create the world to come that could and ought to be.
    Judaism is about changing the world in which we live.
    This should come as no surprise, since Jews recite this three times a day, in the very final prayer of the service,
    known as Aleinu: 'to perfect the world in G-d's
    kingdom.'
    So in Brief, that is what Judaism is about, it is about
    transforming and bettering the world. The 'repair of the
    World' =Tikkun Olam. and preparing for the 'world to
    come'=Olam Habah. All of Judaism is based on the
    ideas that life is a steady progression of processions
    toward higher states of perfection, both on micro and
    macro layers of existance. Man is instructed to better himself & rid himself of animalistic tendencies and deprecating and selfish receiving impulses. The knowledge & teaching that the future will bring a better world is not just a dream.
    The Torah itself, talks about the coming of Moshiach, who will set the process of redemption in motion by which the world will reach its perfection. Jews believe that all peoples are called to the service of righteousness, and we welcome dialogue with people of “good will” from all traditions. We believe in working towards the Tikkun Olam / 'the repair of the world' through programs of social action. Things like Poverty, Racial discrimination, political injustice, war, social decay,
    and environmental deterioration are concerns always addressed in Judaism.
     
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    They (preachers/priests) do not understand what
    "return/place back" (HaShev) means, so you don't know what it means.
    Remember the Kingship was lost /stolen and needs to return to the Temple and city in "the Name", therefore a RETURN to one's inheritance for the Shiloh (one who's right it is [that was stolen from him]).
    In the wrestling match with the angel (messenger) the stone Jacob laid his head on what became known as the "stone of destiny"
    While Jacob was battling for his life, the sense of his guilt pressed upon his soul; his sins rose up before him, to shut him out from God. But in his terrible extremity he remembered God's promises, and his whole heart went out in entreaty for His mercy.
    It was "the Angel of the covenant," who had revealed Himself to Jacob. Now using this standard that an angel is Battling with Jacob is a word refering to changing Jacob's heart through use of his guilt then in Ezra 1 and Isaiah 44-45 the Lord and redeemer who changes Cyrus the Prince and King of Persia heart to rebuild the temple and gather the dispersed Jews back to their land then is Michael since the name given by Daniel in
    Dan 10 shows it was Michael battling this Persian King.
    The stone that Jacob rested on was the one he had the dream of the ladder to heaven. The stone of the covenant he anointed represents the anointing of the true corner stone and is supposed to be the key to secreting Moshiach which is why those old English tales always told of a knight pulling the sword from the stone- (the proof of the rightful kings lineage=coming back to his inheritance)
    This tale represented the pulling out the Truth or Word from the stone (foundation of all things).
    Note: The Foundation Stone is the name of the rock at the heart of the Dome of the Rock in YeruShalem.
    In other words secreting HOW Things Are. Daniel's Revelation of the "Stone" (Cornerstone & one of destiny) who strikes the (Beast's) Kingdoms & turns them to dust, is basically the mirror story of Michael removing the controlling power of the beast, but also as the scrolls says revealing the secret wisdom of the name of God(4Q300I ii4=4Q299 2 i I4)
    which reveals the wisdom of the Essence in that name and which shares his name. ("The Name"[HaShem]of God will be in his name-EXODUS 23:20-21 & Hebrew Version of Micah 4:5). Hence truth out of the foundation stone revealing himself King (returning to inheritence) at the place that holds his name and legend of this overturning that even Islam prophesies.
    The actual anointed Stone of the Covenant became known as Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny). It was used as a seat to thrones which was always anointed (as Jacob did) at the anointing of new Kings.
    The Columbian tradition tells us that, on secreting the Stone, the Abbot prophesied that one day 'The Michael' would 'return' to his inheritance.
    Interesting enough we find this also in The Coming of Melchizedek 11Q13 Col.2 whereby Michael (the Shiloh of Ezekiel) not only comes back for his inheritance, but will return them to what is rightfully theirs as well thus the term ones who’s right it is refers to returning the Temple and authority back to Jerusalem and the Kohanim (Temple Priests/ known as hosts and the term ‘Clouds’ which depicted their appearances when they flocked together gathered in their white puffy robes which looked like clouds)
    Coincidentally 'Night of the long knives' is connected with this arthurian saga, this is represented of the truth (sword) being pulled out of the stone (foundation of all things) at least according to the Grail or Holy Order of Knights (Ritters) The one Knight pulls the Sword (truth) from the Stone (Foundation of all things) and is found the worthy one who as well slays the dragon. these legends are all imagery describing the same Biblical stories of Michael slaying the dragon and being called in Dan 10:21 the one who best knows these truths.
    Another Clue According to the World Book Encyclopedia, "Saint Michael was the patron saint of knights." The prophecy of the anointed Stone of Destiny, the author of BLOODLINE states that this most sacred relic of Scottish tradition will one day reveal the mysterious personage known as "The Michael." This Stone is believed to be the original Pillar that Jacob dedicated to God after his all-night wrestling vigil with an angel. From all references, this stone represents the House of David that went into oblivion after the wicked king Zedekiah was dethroned by our Father and later blinded then killed along with his sons. Jacob's Pillar (The Stone of Destiny) was believed to have been subsequently carried by Jeremiah - along with Zedekiah's two daughters - to Ireland. Later, it went to Scotland, then England.
    Some scholars think that these three moves are associated with Ezekiel 21:27: 'I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come 'whose right it is' ('Shiloh'); and I will give it him.' Dead Sea Scrolls commentary on Ezekiel pronounces the Shiloh of Ezekiel as being archangel (top prophet messenger) Michael. In Ezekiel it's clearly showing the overturning of the first wicked prince with that of the one who's actual right it is as top prince (arch Malakh=head of the congregation[hosts]).
    If you don't get it, this means overturning the imposter head and his hosts in the imposter temple siting in Rome with the actual head of the actual Biblical Hosts mentioned in YeruShalem.
    This is why Daniel says son of man would come with or out of 'clouds' (gathering of hosts). Therefore coming up to the clouds to see the Moshiach means coming up to the Temple in Mount Zion to hear and see Moshiach and meet him with the hosts at his temple. Where is that temple not in Rome, but in YeruShalem thus there has to be an overturning of the authority according to these descriptions back to the ONES WHOSE RIGHT IT IS.
    So here we have the MIKdash in his name in the holy city in his name. None of which has anything to do with Jesus the thief of the NIGHT.
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    Not a coincidence, but design with God's intelligence behind it, but evos believe that you can get life from a geyser if you watch it for a billion years. How stupid af is that lol?
     
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    It means he's gonna kick ALL his enemies arses. No need to go into the gory details, but be prepared

    "“On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south” Zechariah 14:4
     
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    oops never happened before they died: Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."
    Othrr verses talked about coming back quickly and seeing the kingdom in their age:
    (I Cor. 10:11 -KJV) (Heb. 1:2 -KJV)
    (I Peter 1:20 -KJV) (I Peter 4:7 -KJV)
    (1 John 2:15-17) (I John 2:18 -KJV)
    Well I'd hate to be your dog with promises you are stepping out for a bit and will be back quickly.
    Only to not come back 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years, 20 years 200 years, 2,000 years.
    I hope you at least taught him to open the fridge and use the toilet or something.

    These false prophets who do not speak for
    G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32.
     
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    The thing most people forget about RETURN is that say you are driving your car down the highway and you realize you forgot something important so you RETURN to retrieve such item so that you can continue on your way or say you have been travelling some distance and you have gotten sidetracked and lost your way ... Then in order to find your path again you must RETURN to the original place you came from to find the proper path... I could go on and on giving you examples but Sometimes you must seek out someone who can RETURN you to the proper path... In Hebrew the path of RETURN is HASHEV.... Repentance is a form of RETURN when we teSHuVa and we sit SHiVa when it is no longer possible for the person who died to RETURN or HASHEV... Christianity teaches a reward in death( when it is too late to) RETURNING, REPENTING and vowing to not do what is wrong can only be done by the living. Believing in a free get out of jail card( in the form of Jesus) is not only silly but it is self defeating in bettering oneself and trying to be all one can be in this life.. We all make mistakes( I prefer to call and see them as learning experiences) none are perfect but then again we were never asked to be perfect just to strive to be all we can be.. RETURNING is a very important aspect of that because it is never to late to RETURN from any path we have taken so long as we realize that RETURNING is the proper path we should take and achieve and strive for...
     
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    Love it when people argue the validity of each other's majicks
     
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    But with non linear time and it's future interaction with the past, the better analogy is leaving signs in the woods (like breaking twigs and placing fabric on branches or setting up rock or stick markers), so you can get back in the path you took without getting lost. Hence leaving signs and clues to who (first & last name) what (messenger mediator reflection)
    and where(olam habah).
    IF you straighten the path and change enough situations then you need to get back to your inheritance (return)to your rightful place as creator of the process and head of the hosts before you changed things and needed to find your "place back"( In Hebrew HaShev).
     
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    You will likely end up being someone's dog as being an enemy of Christ. We do not know when Jesus will return, but one guess is 2060 by Sir Isaac Newton. I may make it to then, but prolly be huffin' and puffin' lol. However, it doesn't matter once you're dead. They do say time goes faster as you age.
     

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