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Why Does the Right Hate Obama?
IT'S THE MARXISM... STUPID!
IT'S THE MARXISM... STUPID!
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LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
what has obama done that shows signs of succeeding....
LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
what has obama done that shows signs of succeeding....
Why Does the Right Hate Obama?
IT'S THE MARXISM... STUPID!
Oh dang, them big scary red letters again, my, my, whatever shall we do?
because they hated bush...........i don't know is that a trick question....
As a liberal, yes, I hated Bush. Most liberals saw Bush as a fascist, greedy, war-mongering, ignorant, stupid, hypocritical, titular head of an even more terrible group composed of Karl Rove (who used divisive politics to benefit his agendas), Dick Cheney and the rest of the militant Bush Sr. administration who wanted to start wars over oil resources partly because their share-holdings in (corrupt and unethical) defense contracting companies like Halliburton and oil companies would have huge returns (and whattaya know? They did!), and the perceived proponents of racism, sexism, religious rightwing fanaticism in the GOP such as Pat Roberts, Dr. Dobson, Focus of the Family, the KKK (who notoriously votes Republican), etc. etc.
Bush Jr. might not have been, in GOP retrospect, a fiscal conservative, but he was a social and religious conservative and, despite what he said, practiced divisive politics.
Obama has proven to be the most divisive president ever, bar none. He's also sent us on a path of third world economy. Clap that, all you who wish the US ill.
Well, let's see. Bush had 3000 Americans murdered on American soil at the beginning of his watch. He grandoisely stated "Wanted: Dead or Alive". And, after over seven years in office, when he left office, Bin Laden was not only alive, he was also free.
Obama just has one American hostage to look out for. But he gave the correct orders, and gave the people on the spot the authority to do the neccessary deeds. Had Bush so acted when we had Bin Laden holed up at Tora Bora, we might well have gotten that murderer.
Bush's Tora Bora Bull - by Paul Sperry
Bush's Tora Bora Bull
by Paul Sperry
It's now common knowledge that Osama bin Laden escaped from Afghanistan in December 2001 and is still at large, still at al-Qaeda's helm calling the shots. Even Rush Limbaugh knows it, and has stopped trying to convince dittoheads that President Bush has the terror kingpin's body on ice somewhere.
How we let bin Laden get away is still in dispute, however. And it's no trivial matter.
The White House, loath to take the blame for an embarrassing failure, has deflected criticism by denying we ever had Enemy No. 1 cornered in Tora Bora, as virtually every foreign correspondent who was there at the time has reported.
Singing from the same hymnal, Bush, Vice President Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former CENTCOM Commander Gen. Tommy Franks have all insisted: "We didn't know if bin Laden was at Tora Bora."
But two CIA officers who were on the ground then argue they did in fact know he was there and did next to nothing to snatch him. So does the CIA official who briefed the president about the Afghan operations.
Now the former CIA director is backing them up.
"Was Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora?" CBS correspondent Scott Pelley asked George Tenet in their recent "60 Minutes" interview.
"We believe that he was," Tenet replied.
Perhaps the CIA knew but failed to inform the White House or Pentagon?
Not according to Gary Berntsen, the key CIA field commander on the ground near Tora Bora at the time. He in vain requested 800 American army rangers to prevent bin Laden's escape. The request was denied by Franks, who argued U.S. troops were not necessary because an Afghan militia had been hired to fight in their place. His priority was removing the Taliban from power, even though al-Qaeda financed, controlled and sponsored the Taliban, and not the other way around.
(Most Americans don't know this, but Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan did not include any effort by U.S. forces to capture the al-Qaeda leadership, seal the border with Pakistan or cut off al-Qaeda escape routes. The U.S. attack on al-Qaeda consisted primarily of bombing deserted training camps, something former President Clinton had already tried before 9/11. The main focus of OEF was Taliban regime change, followed by nation building, something candidate George Bush vowed he'd never do.)
In his book, Jawbreaker, Berntsen refutes claims by Franks and the White House that bin Laden was able to escape from Tora Bora because they didn't know he was holed up there.
"He was there," he says, "and could have been caught."
He says he escaped with the help of our paid Afghan proxy fighters, as well as Pakistani agents.
LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
what has obama done that shows signs of succeeding....
Obama has proven to be the most divisive president ever, bar none. He's also sent us on a path of third world economy. Clap that, all you who wish the US ill.
So you say. We will see what the next four years bring. It certainly is nice to have a President that can actually put an intelligent sentence together.
Obama has proven to be the most divisive president ever, bar none. He's also sent us on a path of third world economy. Clap that, all you who wish the US ill.
So you say. We will see what the next four years bring. It certainly is nice to have a President that can actually put an intelligent sentence together.
It is more about power and the loss of control. There is this sense in the right that they know better, it is part of the hierarchical ideological frame they operate in. Clinton faced the same 'hate' - call it what you will - and was hounded till a private incident gave the conservatives their high moral (?) ground. Ask which party wants to control your actions and you get a sense of why conservatism is so lost after a democratic majority told them go away.
Well, let's see. Bush had 3000 Americans murdered on American soil at the beginning of his watch. He grandoisely stated "Wanted: Dead or Alive". And, after over seven years in office, when he left office, Bin Laden was not only alive, he was also free.
Obama just has one American hostage to look out for. But he gave the correct orders, and gave the people on the spot the authority to do the neccessary deeds. Had Bush so acted when we had Bin Laden holed up at Tora Bora, we might well have gotten that murderer.
Bush's Tora Bora Bull - by Paul Sperry
Bush's Tora Bora Bull
by Paul Sperry
It's now common knowledge that Osama bin Laden escaped from Afghanistan in December 2001 and is still at large, still at al-Qaeda's helm calling the shots. Even Rush Limbaugh knows it, and has stopped trying to convince dittoheads that President Bush has the terror kingpin's body on ice somewhere.
How we let bin Laden get away is still in dispute, however. And it's no trivial matter.
The White House, loath to take the blame for an embarrassing failure, has deflected criticism by denying we ever had Enemy No. 1 cornered in Tora Bora, as virtually every foreign correspondent who was there at the time has reported.
Singing from the same hymnal, Bush, Vice President Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former CENTCOM Commander Gen. Tommy Franks have all insisted: "We didn't know if bin Laden was at Tora Bora."
But two CIA officers who were on the ground then argue they did in fact know he was there and did next to nothing to snatch him. So does the CIA official who briefed the president about the Afghan operations.
Now the former CIA director is backing them up.
"Was Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora?" CBS correspondent Scott Pelley asked George Tenet in their recent "60 Minutes" interview.
"We believe that he was," Tenet replied.
Perhaps the CIA knew but failed to inform the White House or Pentagon?
Not according to Gary Berntsen, the key CIA field commander on the ground near Tora Bora at the time. He in vain requested 800 American army rangers to prevent bin Laden's escape. The request was denied by Franks, who argued U.S. troops were not necessary because an Afghan militia had been hired to fight in their place. His priority was removing the Taliban from power, even though al-Qaeda financed, controlled and sponsored the Taliban, and not the other way around.
(Most Americans don't know this, but Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan did not include any effort by U.S. forces to capture the al-Qaeda leadership, seal the border with Pakistan or cut off al-Qaeda escape routes. The U.S. attack on al-Qaeda consisted primarily of bombing deserted training camps, something former President Clinton had already tried before 9/11. The main focus of OEF was Taliban regime change, followed by nation building, something candidate George Bush vowed he'd never do.)
In his book, Jawbreaker, Berntsen refutes claims by Franks and the White House that bin Laden was able to escape from Tora Bora because they didn't know he was holed up there.
"He was there," he says, "and could have been caught."
He says he escaped with the help of our paid Afghan proxy fighters, as well as Pakistani agents.
How does bad mouthing Bush prove any sort of success for Obama?
LOL. The wingnuts are scared out of their little panties because President Barak Hussein Obama shows signs of succeeding. Succeeding where the wingnuts poster child for idiocy failed.
what has obama done that shows signs of succeeding....
Well, he liked Bush's wiretapping policy so much he succeeded in keeping THAT.
It is more about power and the loss of control. There is this sense in the right that they know better, it is part of the hierarchical ideological frame they operate in. Clinton faced the same 'hate' - call it what you will - and was hounded till a private incident gave the conservatives their high moral (?) ground. Ask which party wants to control your actions and you get a sense of why conservatism is so lost after a democratic majority told them go away.