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PC, in both cases they may Learn English but they will never Master it, because they are not forced to use it exclusively.
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when willl you people realise that speaking more than one language is easy for the brain and in fact has been proven to make your brain more functional.
There are cold hard studies that prove this.
By insisting for some dumb racists reason that Americans speak only one language you insist Americans hold their brain back.
Many in The rest of the world speaks more than one launguage
I think America should be bilingual. Latinos should learn English and English speaking people should learn Spanish. Communication is the first step to understanding and the lack of understanding is at the root of most of our problems in the world.
PC, in both cases they may Learn English but they will never Master it, because they are not forced to use it exclusively.
From the article:
...Through his interpreter, Aguirre said Spanish is his "first language and since it is his first time giving testimony he would rather do it in Spanish."
So it would seem that Mr. Aguirre speaks English and his reason for giving testimony in Spanish is simple and quite understandable. He is more comfortable using his first language for such a task.
I get that.
Public speaking is a scary enough endeavor for many people, but to do so in a language that is not native to you makes it doubly so.
I hesitate to call this a case of intolerance and lean more to a case of impatience and misunderstanding. Like many of you I srongly believe that if a person moves to a foreign country, he or she should have the foresight to learn the language.
From the article:
...Through his interpreter, Aguirre said Spanish is his "first language and since it is his first time giving testimony he would rather do it in Spanish."
So it would seem that Mr. Aguirre speaks English and his reason for giving testimony in Spanish is simple and quite understandable. He is more comfortable using his first language for such a task.
I get that.
Public speaking is a scary enough endeavor for many people, but to do so in a language that is not native to you makes it doubly so.
I hesitate to call this a case of intolerance and lean more to a case of impatience and misunderstanding. Like many of you I srongly believe that if a person moves to a foreign country, he or she should have the foresight to learn the language.
Well USA citizens and Canadiens and Brits alike better put on their shame faces because, in my experience, the majority of whites living in Mexico for years can barely ask for directions nevermind conduct business or testify in court.
I think America should be bilingual. Latinos should learn English and English speaking people should learn Spanish. Communication is the first step to understanding and the lack of understanding is at the root of most of our problems in the world.
From the article:
...Through his interpreter, Aguirre said Spanish is his "first language and since it is his first time giving testimony he would rather do it in Spanish."
So it would seem that Mr. Aguirre speaks English and his reason for giving testimony in Spanish is simple and quite understandable. He is more comfortable using his first language for such a task.
I get that.
Public speaking is a scary enough endeavor for many people, but to do so in a language that is not native to you makes it doubly so.
I hesitate to call this a case of intolerance and lean more to a case of impatience and misunderstanding. Like many of you I srongly believe that if a person moves to a foreign country, he or she should have the foresight to learn the language.
Well USA citizens and Canadiens and Brits alike better put on their shame faces because, in my experience, the majority of whites living in Mexico for years can barely ask for directions nevermind conduct business or testify in court.
Really?
B/c ~80% of our crew in Italy spoke Italian. It was considered embarassing not to.
Speaking Gaelic in my greatgrand parents home earned you a beating.
My GGP struggled to speak english themselves, but {as the story goes] if they didn't know the proper English, they would whisper amoung themselves until they figured it out.
I think America should be bilingual. Latinos should learn English and English speaking people should learn Spanish. Communication is the first step to understanding and the lack of understanding is at the root of most of our problems in the world.
Why?
People living in Oregon may go thier entire lives and never come across a spanish speacking person.
We have Canadians that speak French. so by your logic, people living in Florida and Puerto Rico should learn French.
I think Mexicans should be bi-sexual!
PC, in both cases they may Learn English but they will never Master it, because they are not forced to use it exclusively.
From the article:
...Through his interpreter, Aguirre said Spanish is his "first language and since it is his first time giving testimony he would rather do it in Spanish."
So it would seem that Mr. Aguirre speaks English and his reason for giving testimony in Spanish is simple and quite understandable. He is more comfortable using his first language for such a task.
I get that.
Public speaking is a scary enough endeavor for many people, but to do so in a language that is not native to you makes it doubly so.
I hesitate to call this a case of intolerance and lean more to a case of impatience and misunderstanding. Like many of you I srongly believe that if a person moves to a foreign country, he or she should have the foresight to learn the language.
Well, it's my second language and I have to work at it all the time. It depends on what you mean by 'forced.'
"It is insulting to us," Sen. Harris fired back. "It is very insulting. And if he knows English, he needs to be speaking in English."
It should be for all legal and governmental activities, whether spoken or written.
In analyzing the English-only amendments constitutionality, the [Arizona] supreme court cited precedent that demonstrates "practically universal agreement that a major purpose of [the First] Amendment was to protect the free discussion of governmental affairs." The English-only amendment would defeat this purpose in two ways, the court found: by depriving "limited- and nonEnglish-speaking persons of access to information about the government when multilingual access may be available and may be necessary to ensure fair and effective delivery of governmental services to nonEnglish-speaking persons," and by "depriving elected officials and public employees of the ability to communicate with their constituents and with the public."
The court also held that the English-only amendment violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, which provides that "[n]o state shall . . . deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The court recognized that the English-only amendment impinged upon the right to petition for redress of grievances, a "fundamental right" guaranteed by the First Amendment, as well as on a corollary right of all citizens to participate equally in the political process. Since the English-only amendment impinged upon the fundamental right to petition the government for redress of grievances, it was subject to a "strict scrutiny" analysis, the court reasoned. Under this analysis, the defendants had the burden of establishing the amendments constitutionality by demonstrating that it was drawn with narrow specificity to meet a "compelling state interest." Concluding that the defendants did not meet this burden, the court found the amendment to be in violation of the Fourteenth Amendments guarantee of equal protection.
Finally, the court rejected the Arizona attorney generals proposal that the sections of the amendment found to be invalid be severed from the remaining portions. The court held that the amendment was not capable of such "judicial surgery," since it contained no severability clause and there was no evidence that Arizona voters would have enacted "such a rewritten and essentially meaningless amendment."
Ruiz, et al. v. Hull, et al., 191 Ariz. 441, 957 P.2d 984 (1998); cert. denied, Arizonans for Official English v. Arizona, __ U.S. __, No. 98-167 (Jan. 11, 1999).
Ruiz, et al. v. Hull, et al.: Certiorari Denied in Appeal of Arizona Court Ruling Declaring English-Only Law Unconstitutional
If he spent that 23 years living amongst the Hispanic community he will not have to learn English.
Which is why I have little to no respect for people of his ilk.
My great-grandparents learned English BEFORE they came to the United States from Germany in 1910. They came here to become AMERICANS, not German-Americans, not Germans living in America; AMERICANS. So far as I'm concerned anyone immigrating to this country should have 12 months to learn passable English. If you can't, won't, or don't do it.... SHIP THEIR ASSES BACK WHEREVER THEY CAME FROM!!!!
when willl you people realise that speaking more than one language is easy for the brain and in fact has been proven to make your brain more functional.
There are cold hard studies that prove this.
By insisting for some dumb racists reason that Americans speak only one language you insist Americans hold their brain back.
Many in The rest of the world speaks more than one launguage
This is not an issue of what one CAN do, it's an issue of what one SHOULD do. The great-grandparents I mentioned above.... When they came here, he spoke 7 languages and she spoke 5. You know how many they spoke publicly after arriving here.... ONE. They also refused to teach a single word of the 8 languages other than English they combined to speak to any one of their children. THAT is the mentality we need to promote in this country.
I think America should be bilingual. Latinos should learn English and English speaking people should learn Spanish. Communication is the first step to understanding and the lack of understanding is at the root of most of our problems in the world.
Why the hell would I ever speak Spanish? What would be the usefullness for me to learn Spanish? I would love to know how that would improve my life, except to possibly give me early warning that I'm about to be mugged or ripped off in a store.