Said1
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Merlin1047 said:Sorry. Sometimes I just can't help myself. I think it's a congenital deficiency.
That's ok, I like that. You know what they say about great minds don't you?
Hint: Free Health Care :rotflmao:
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Merlin1047 said:Sorry. Sometimes I just can't help myself. I think it's a congenital deficiency.
Said1 said:I'm fully aware of the evil's of socialism, I don't need a recap. I just happen to feel US drug manufacturers have gotten out of control with pricing, what do you think? Do you think prices are reasonable?
Yeah. I'm aware of that.
DKSuddeth said:When one capsule of a medication costs $20 in the US but only $7 in Canada and the pharma company is STILL making a profit on the canadian sales, it should be blatantly obvious what country is supporting the R&D.
no1tovote4 said:It is true that Americans are subsidizing the lower prices in Canada. However the only way to equalize that would be to either force them to give us the same pricing or to simply allow Americans to purchase drugs that are verified to come from Canada. The only difference we have is making sure that they are verified to come from there. Most of the purchases for those drugs are online, and not everybody is purchasing drugs from Canada. The site may say so, but the drugs may be from another country.
It must be verifiable, then the allowance should be made. After that, the Drug Companies will have to equalize the pricing as it cannot be cost effective to have people purchasing cheap drugs after they have been shipped from here to there. Shipping costs are usually among the highest costs of a company of that type.
oh i also forget these are the same jokers who have AIDS drugs but for years refused to sell them at affordable prices to the dying.... if that tells you anything about their morals or business sense, you'll see why they're now fighting to the death to prevent americans from being able to import drugs from canada.
Said1 said:Canada has extensive patents on many essential prescription drugs, even though they aren't being manufactured in Canada. I'm lacking on details, but Cuba and Canada were at the WTO over patent issues, apparently Cuba has a decent R&D sector, only they are unable to produce and sell generic meds due to elaborate Canadian patents.
Canadian on-line druggist aren't only purchasing meds directly from American pharmaceutical companies either. USA made meds are being purchased largely from "off-shore" third partly distributors who are buying in bulk from USA manufacturers. This may help reduce costs for some, but if American's are being charged more for drugs in order to make up for lost profits as a result of selling so much for so little, I thinks that's wrong (as are needless extensive Canadian patents).
dilloduck said:I did a little Googling on this issue and it appears a combination of factors are involved and it's not neccessarily just the Republicans who are against. It was a bi-partisan bill in 1987 that made importation from Canada illegal and both parties receive beaucoup bucks form lobbiest. Gonna take a bi-partisan effort to fix it and these parties won't do crap with each other right now.
Said1 said:Your right, it's not as cut and dry as one might think.
dilloduck said:They also passed a law that allows people to patent discoveries made using federal research money so basically our tax money is funding individuals and companies that turn around and charge us big time money for what we funded to develop--how about them apples???
Said1 said:I thought that would be par for the course, I mean Canadians do it.
no1tovote4 said:Are Canadian made and patented drugs cheaper here, or do they fleece us as well? Does anybody know. I am not trying to be insulting here, just actually wanting to know.
Said1 said:I thought that would be par for the course, I mean Canadians do it.
dilloduck said:I have no problem if the govt is funding R&D. The problem I have is the profit margin and allowing them to enter the world of protected patents ,etc. The result is that the govt. pays for all the risks and losses while the companies only reap the rewards. It's like a college loan that goes unpaid .
Said1 said:How much are basic meds where you are Dillo?
dilloduck said:I really have no idea as I don't know anyone who uses any regularly. I just hear general comments on how expensive they are. I think the demand to feel good all the time (and immediately) has an effect how much companies can charge. That along with Dr kickbacks for promoting certain drugs when a cheaper madication may work just as well.
Said1 said:I meant for treating basic things like bronchitis.