CDZ Who is worse, democrats who owned slaves, or the communists knocking the statues down...

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    When the democrats owned slave, it was a world wide accepted practice....and they had been brought up in a society that had slavery.....they didn't necessarily understand better....

    The communists groups knocking down the statues of democrat soldiers who fought to keep slaves? Communism also enslaved entire populations...not just the people of one skin color.....and they committed mass murder in the modern world....not 100 years ago.....

    The communists in Russia murdered 25 million people.....the communists in China murdered 70 million people...the communists in Cambodia, 1/3 of the population....and around the world communists enslaved and murdered in order to spread communism.

    So who was worse...the democrat slave owners who didn't know any better, or the people today who proudly belong to communist groups and praise mass murderers like the castros, and che...and mao, the mass murderer?
     
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    Why must one be worse than the other?
     
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    Those southern Democrats eventually become Republicans. Conservatives fought to keep slavery, liberals fought to end it.

    It's loyal anti-fascist Americans taking down statues. The Nazis also referred to anyone who opposed fascism as a communist. By declaring how everyone opposing fascism is a communist, 2aguy is showing us how how history repeats itself.

    Anyways, nice deflection thread. The phantom communists that 2aguy was told to fear aren't the issue. The point is that post-civil-war monuments to white supremacy are not a good thing, and should be taken down. And nobody seems to have a good argument otherwise, being that "But I love white supremacists!" isn't a good argument.
     
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    Those leftist shitheads sure are fond of waving their hammer & sickle flags at their little circle-jerks, ain't they?

    They're no better than neo-nazis, Klan members, and ISIS terrorists.
     
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    "Communism" is an economic model. It has nothing to do with "statues". And there were no "democrat [sic] soldiers who fought to keep slaves". If you refer to the Confederacy -- it had no political parties. No "democrats" [sic], no Republicans, no Whigs, no nothing.

    Why do you single out "Democrats" -- who existed for roughly 27 years out of the 350 years of American slavery, to the exclusion of everybody else?

    Aye, there's the rub.
     
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    The leaders of the confederacy were all democrats.

    The people taking the statues down, the majority of them are members of various communist party groups, under different names.....that they declare themselves members of communist groups after the atrocities of communism speaks to their insanity.
     
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    No...the parties taking the lead in pushing taking down the statues, especially yesterday, were communists...

    No...the communists called anyone who opposed communism, fascists., that came directly from stalin....even though the national socialists were also socialists.

    the antifa movement is a fascist movement....not anti-fascist.
     
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    They don't...which is why this is a discussion, they are both vile...however, the people who call themselves communists today, after the mass murder around the world, show how insane they are.
     
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    As long as we are talking Confeds.....might do well to remember this.

    With Malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds. Abraham Lincoln
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    I guess we'll just keep saying this until it sinks in......

    >> Despite political differences within the Confederacy, no national political parties were formed because they were seen as illegitimate. "Anti-partyism became an article of political faith."[221] Without a two-party system building alternative sets of national leaders, electoral protests tended to be narrowly state-based, "negative, carping and petty." The 1863 mid-term elections became mere expressions of futile and frustrated dissatisfaction. According to historian David M. Potter, this lack of a functioning two-party system caused "real and direct damage" to the Confederate war effort since it prevented the formulation of any effective alternatives to the conduct of the war by the Davis administration.[222]

    .... The absence of political parties made individual roll call voting all the more important, as the Confederate "freedom of roll-call voting [was] unprecedented in American legislative history.[236] << Wiki: CSA
    Once again --- no "democrats" (and proper names get capital letters in English) --- no Republicans, no Whigs, no Constitutional Unionists, no Know Nothings ---- NO PARTIES. Which is what I just said.

    This just in, "no parties" does not mean "democrats" --- it means "no parties".

    Perhaps you should learn some history before you purport to hold forth on it and in the process embarrass yourself.


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