Who is Israeli colonel Yusi Oulen Shahak in Golani Brigade with security code Re34356578765az2314?

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    Challenger, et al,

    I understand completely. A General Assembly Resolution that reaffirms existing law has no legally binding effect. It is the same as me reaffirming existing law. What has the effect, is the existing law, not the redundant Resolution.

    General Assembly resolutions are non-binding; as indicated by Chapter IV, Articles 10 and Article 14, UN Charter refer to General Assembly as "recommendations"; the recommendatory nature of General Assembly resolutions has repeatedly been stressed by theInternational Court of Justice.[2]


    (COMMENT)

    You will notice that "some passages" within a Security Council Resolutions start with the work "Decides." Under Chapter V, Article 25 of the UN Charter:


    Article 25
    The Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council in accordance with the present Charter.

    As an example, the very first Resolution you listed was UN Security Council Resolution 106, adopted after hearing reports from the Chief of Staff of the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO) in Palestine and representatives of Egypt and Israel the Council. The UNTSO noted that the Egyptian-Israel Mixed Armistice Commission (MAC) made a determination that the attack of 28 February 1955 was a "prearranged and planned attack ordered by Israel authorities." The UNSC:
    BUT it does not actually "bind" Israel to a specific action. It is ambiguous. It merely puts Israel on notice that United Nations Security Council Resolution 54 (1948), is still applicable. It uses language such as:
    • Determines
    • Orders
    • Declares
    • Instructs
    • Decides
    This is very different language from that of a normal General Assembly Resolution. And you will also notice that in the case of UNSC Resolution 106, it does not actually do anything but recognize the violation as noted by the MAC.

    This is very much like the UN making notes that the Russian Federation took the Crimea; or that Peoples' Republic of China took Tibet. Even in cases where there are clear violations, there is no enforcement (exceptions to the rule).

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    R
     
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    One would think if you choose to be a member of a certain organization, you would honor the rules of said organization?
     
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    Billo_Really, et al,

    That would be a terribly naive assumption to make.

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    Seldom, if ever, are political memberships acquired with the intent to follow every rule. Political memberships or affiliations are a utilitarian venture (taken under their own best interest) to the member.

    Members selectively act in the best interest of their respective nation.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    Exactly. Zionist Israel is able to act with complete impunity because the U.N. was created without any means of independant enforcement and given that the U.S. is Zionist Israel's de facto "bitch" in the U.N.

    An Updated List of Vetoes Cast by the United States to Shield Israel from Criticism by the U.N. Security Council

    U.S. Vetoes of UN Security Council Resolutions Critical to Israel | Jewish Virtual Library

    the organisation is poweless to fulfill the function it was originally set up for, much like the earlier League of Nations. However, the General Assembly can still pass resolutions that reflect the rest of the world's disgust at Zionist Israeli policies and activities vis-a-vis the Palestinians. It is no accident that the USA and Zionist Israel have pulled out of the Rome Statute/I.C.C.

    This is one reason I rarely get involved with "international law" discussions, they are generally pointless exercises until and unless the USA changes its stance.

    US raises prospect of Israel UN isolation - BBC News
     
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    These rules were created (in part) to prevent another Holocaust. Rules you choose to eschew. Furthermore, these aren't just "political" rules you can throw around and debate like a new bill for your district, these are rules designed to give the "mechanism" for countries to settle their differences peacefully.

    Being against these "rules", is being against peace itself, as is shown by the nature of the Resolutions against Israel.

    "...condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid..."

    "...condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria..."

    "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria..."

    "...condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan..."

    The nature of these "rules violations", is just horrifying! Yet, you call, 'thinking Israel would honor rules to keep the peace', naïve?

    I call you disgusting.


    That's what Nazi Germany did.
     
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    Interesting point when you consider that the League of Nations prevented another global war and provided a pressure release mechanism right up to the point where certain countries' "interests" trumped adhereance to "international law" and League condemnations, making the LoN effectively redundant. If you look around now, the same is happening to the U.N., countries and groups, "inspired" by U.S. and Zionist Israeli example, are ignoring the U.N. in favour of their own "interests". I suspect it won't be long before we have another global war. Watch this space...:(
     
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    That makes perfect sense if you think about the current situation in the middle east. As the saying goes, an enemy of my enemy is my friend. As long as ISIS is attacking Assad's forces, then they're seen as an ally of Israel. If anything, that shows just how low the Israelis are willing to go. Between human rights violations, war crimes, and now teaming up with evil forces working to destabilize the region. Its safe to say at this point, the Israelis don't have any problem being the villains. Israel is one of the most racist places on Earth, and it would suit me just fine to see it smashed. Its at least as racist as apartheid South Africa was. Anyone who has a skin color differing from white is suspect to unreasonable search, or detainmentIts less than they deserve for their crimes. Playing the whole victim card from the holocaust in WW2 only goes as far as the point where they decide to go from being victims of nazis to starting to act like them.

    Its refreshing to see that not everyone here has their nose planted up Israel's ass. But that's an exclusively republican thing. They gotta protect the master race overseas.......
     
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    Challenger, et al,

    You say this, and suggest that the inspiration "by U.S. and Zionist Israel" are the only examples of countries that work in their own best interest (self-interest)! This is hardly the case.

    The UN is an example of a Pluralistic system of governments that have different nations that keep their identities while existing within larger blocks of nations with commonality and can be associated with a more dominant group. They do this to achieve a position that will maximize their political and diplomatic influence.

    Other examples of cooperative arrangements between political parties intended to promote a mutual self-interest are:
    • The Cartels: Diamond or Oil --- Commodity Interests
    • NATO --- Intergovernmental Military Alliances
    • The Arab League --- Regional Organization
    • The G-8 Highly Industrialized Nations
    Many Realists consider the principal actors in the international arena to be states, which FIRST are concerned with their own security --- THEN act in pursuit of their own national interests, and struggle for influence.

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    The US does have a certain amount of influence; but nothing on the order that you suggest. And there are other nations and entities that ignore the UN and IHL (PLO/Palestine as an example) that were not inspired by the US or Israel.
    • The 1948 occupation and subsequent 1950 Annexation of the West Bank by the Hashemite Kingdom, extended the influence of Jordan within the region.
    • The 1950 annexation of Tibet by the People's Republic of China (PRC) established total PRC sovereignty but granted Tibet a certain measure of autonomy.
    • The 1955 The Warsaw Pact was a Russian military response to the introduction of the Federal Republic of Germany into NATO, motivated by the Soviet desires to maintain control over military forces (self-interest) in Central and Eastern Europe. NATO and the Warsaw Pact are not limited by the constraints of the UN. They are separate treaties made in the bast interests of their membership.
    More Recently:
    • The 2014/2015 NPT Negotiations with Iran, where Iran acted in its best interest.
    • The 2014 Russian Federation annexation of the Crimea from the Ukraine assures Russian influence in the Black Sea Region.

    Most Respectfully,
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    Do tell, how many times was the U.S.A. condemned by the U.N. for following it's own interests and breaking international laws between 1945 and 1991?
     
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    We have no obligation to follow international law. We are a sovereign nation.
     

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