when i read post i n the forum, i get confuse becuase of what people say abaout Liberal and Conservative leaders. this is what dictionary say i n definition. when i read som posts i n the forum, people who say politicens are liberal o r conservative when there really are not by the definition. then, when you read the definition, what i s s o bad abaout a liberal o r conservative? i dont think any one politicen can be complete liberal, or anothre complete conservative. are the word Liberal and Conservative bad words? i list some politicens by how good they do for the people, not by liberal and conservative. Paul martin, Bush lap dog Jean Chrétien, 2n d worst PM Pierre Trudeau, worst PM Brian Mulroney, worst torry Stephen Harper best torry all of this leaders were not Liberal or conservative but a something o f both ideas. so i think when you call politicen Liberal or Conservative, you are calling them only on one idea like economique o r social issues. so it becomes issue for voters duriing election to decide what candidate is best Liberal and Conservative. so who are your leaders and do yo u vote for them i f you think they are liberal and conservatiive?