Whitewashing History

[Lakhota]

“Can Ron DeSantis explain how being enslaved was beneficial to Celia?

In 1850, a fourteen-year-old girl in Missouri named Celia was purchased by enslaver, Robert Newsom.

Over the course of five years, he repeatedly raped her.

On June 23, 1855 while pregnant with her second child, Celia defended herself against more abuse, resulting in the death of her enslaver and rapist.

During Celia’s trial, Newsom’s grandson William Powell testified.

Powell testified that Celia had complained that Newsom repeatedly demanded sex and that she had approached other Newsom family members in a vain attempt to stop the rapes. Powell also admitted that Celia told him that her attack on Newsom came from desperation and that she only intended to injure, not kill.

Celia was found guilty.

An appeal was filed.

The Missouri Supreme Court ultimately ruled against her appeal.

On December 21, 1855 at 2:30 P.M., the state of Missouri murdered Celia on the gallows.

Are we going to teach children this history?

Or are we going to continue to whitewash history because it makes some people uncomfortable?”

- Cales McGinnis

 

[Arlette]

DeSantis is desperate for the racist vote.
No matter how low the Meatball goes, he can't get the MAGAs to like him. Grifty is promising revenge and massive pain for his enemies and the Meatball's anti woke crap isn't cutting it.

I really hope that his failed presidential bid will end his career.

 

[gtopa1]

Yes you do!!!

Labour MP Kate Hoey, formerly the chairwoman of the all-party Parliamentary group on Zimbabwe and a longtime critic of the ex-president, tweeted: "Mugabe brought independence to Zimbabwe and then killed in the Gukurahundi-up to 80,000 of his own citizens in Matabeleland and brought his country to its knees economically. A hero to a brutal dictator."

The Gukurahundi was the massacres of Ndebele civilians carried out by the North Korean-trained Fifth Brigade of the Zimbabwe National Army in a bid to crush dissidents in the 1980s.

Mugabe was blamed for having orchestrated the killings, and had signed an agreement with North Korean President Kim Il-sung to have Pyongyang's military train a brigade for Zimbabwe's army.
The former president's savage reign over the former British colony, which gained independence in 1980, was dominated by murder, bloodshed, torture, corruption, human rights abuses, persecution of political opponents, intimidation and vote-rigging on a grand scale.

In 2000 he led a campaign to evict white farmers from their land, which was given to black Zimbabweans, and led to famine.

His henchmen attacked and often murdered white farmers, burning their homes, looting their possessions and confiscating their land.

The economy of the mineral-rich country descended into chaos with thousands of people reduced to grinding poverty, many of them suffering from near-starvation and worse.

Rigging elections and wrecking Zimbabwe's economy​

At one point in 2008 inflation hit the rate of 231million per cent.

A loaf of bread cost millions of Zimbabwe dollars as residents struggled to put food on the table at home and lived in despair.

Political opponents were often beaten, sexually abused and sometimes charged with treason and homosexual offences.

Robert Mugabe 'ate a zoo' and murdered enemies - but was still a hero to many

Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe ate a baby elephant when he celebrated his 91st birthday - but he did plenty worse during a reign of terror lasting almost 40 years

www.mirror.co.uk

Celia murdered a slave owner who she SAID, without any corroboration, raped her. Note how she received a TRIAL and an APPEAL but was ultimately found guilty of murder. At the time horse thieves were hanged so I doubt it was disproportionate for the time. Mugabe was still murdering until his death!!!

So yes; teach BOTH histories at an age appropriate level; probably High School Grade 11. (or US equivalent).

The convict story is taught here in Primary School. "The Triangle" has a whole new meaning, as does the "cat of nine tails".

Greg

Greg

 

[Orangecat]

In 1850, a fourteen-year-old girl in Missouri named Celia was purchased by enslaver, Robert Newsom.

Purchased from whom?

 

[Yarddog]

“Can Ron DeSantis explain how being enslaved was beneficial to Celia?

In 1850, a fourteen-year-old girl in Missouri named Celia was purchased by enslaver, Robert Newsom.

Over the course of five years, he repeatedly raped her.

On June 23, 1855 while pregnant with her second child, Celia defended herself against more abuse, resulting in the death of her enslaver and rapist.

During Celia’s trial, Newsom’s grandson William Powell testified.

Powell testified that Celia had complained that Newsom repeatedly demanded sex and that she had approached other Newsom family members in a vain attempt to stop the rapes. Powell also admitted that Celia told him that her attack on Newsom came from desperation and that she only intended to injure, not kill.

Celia was found guilty.

An appeal was filed.

The Missouri Supreme Court ultimately ruled against her appeal.

On December 21, 1855 at 2:30 P.M., the state of Missouri murdered Celia on the gallows.

Are we going to teach children this history?

Or are we going to continue to whitewash history because it makes some people uncomfortable?”

- Cales McGinnis

You're one hateful person. Of course, the same bullshit Democrats have played for the last 50 years... Republican = loves slavery/racism.... sure sure.

 

[Arlette]

You're one hateful person. Of course, the same bullshit Democrats have played for the last 50 years... Republican = loves slavery/racism.... sure sure.

I guess you can't explain how slavery was beneficial to Celia neither

 

[Yarddog]

I guess you can't explain how slavery was beneficial to Celia neither

Why should I ? when it wasnt? how about a little context.

 

[Yarddog]

Purchased from whom?

Obviously Ron DeSantis purchased her. Don't you know he sleeps in a coffin at night and hasn't aged in 300 years?

 

[Concerned American]

“Can Ron DeSantis explain how being enslaved was beneficial to Celia?

In 1850, a fourteen-year-old girl in Missouri named Celia was purchased by enslaver, Robert Newsom.

Over the course of five years, he repeatedly raped her.

On June 23, 1855 while pregnant with her second child, Celia defended herself against more abuse, resulting in the death of her enslaver and rapist.

During Celia’s trial, Newsom’s grandson William Powell testified.

Powell testified that Celia had complained that Newsom repeatedly demanded sex and that she had approached other Newsom family members in a vain attempt to stop the rapes. Powell also admitted that Celia told him that her attack on Newsom came from desperation and that she only intended to injure, not kill.

Celia was found guilty.

An appeal was filed.

The Missouri Supreme Court ultimately ruled against her appeal.

On December 21, 1855 at 2:30 P.M., the state of Missouri murdered Celia on the gallows.

Are we going to teach children this history?

Or are we going to continue to whitewash history because it makes some people uncomfortable?”

- Cales McGinnis

Yeah, yeah, yeah, things are rough all over, get over it whiner.

 

[Arlette]

Why should I ? when it wasnt? how about a little context.

Exactly. Slavery wasn't beneficial for the slaves. So why teach an obvious falsehood?

 

[Orangecat]

I guess you can't explain how slavery was beneficial to Celia neither

I like getting laid.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Celia didn't have a chance. Had she remained in Africa she would have ended up as someone's dinner.

 

[Yarddog]

Exactly. Slavery wasn't beneficial for the slaves. So why teach an obvious falsehood?

Its obvious slavery wasnt good for slaves. I dont have to agree with everything De'Santis says
and I think his point is probably a bad one in my opinion, but as an adult i can see what he was trying to say. While Slavery was and still is an abomination, he was trying to say that a person who was made to build brick walls and buildings ... probably had the skills to become a stone mason after he was liberated,
and probably then had that skill to pass down to his kids.
I understand, that may not be a very strong position based on the horrors of slavery and that Democrats are naturally going to jump all over that to paint DeSantis in the worst possible light,

However for the O.P. To equate Ron Desantis'es position to be OK with a slave girl being raped...and then hung is a complete distortion of what De'Santis was trying to say. Even if you don't agree with his position, it doesnt mean you (the OP) needs to go to the lowest place, one could just be an adult about it.

 

[Arlette]

Its obvious slavery wasnt good for slaves. I dont have to agree with everything De'Santis says
and I think his point is probably a bad one in my opinion, but as an adult i can see what he was trying to say. While Slavery was and still is an abomination, he was trying to say that a person who was made to build brick walls and buildings ... probably had the skills to become a stone mason after he was liberated,
and probably then had that skill to pass down to his kids.
I understand, that may not be a very strong position based on the horrors of slavery and that Democrats are naturally going to jump all over that to paint DeSantis in the worst possible light,

However for the O.P. To equate Ron Desantis'es position to be OK with a slave girl being raped...and then hung is a complete distortion of what De'Santis was trying to say. Even if you don't agree with his position, it doesnt mean you (the OP) needs to go to the lowest place, one could just be an adult about it.

If you wanna give the Meatball the benefit of doubt, have at it. He's not gonna get it from me.

 

[HikerGuy83]

However for the O.P. To equate Ron Desantis'es position to be OK with a slave girl being raped...and then hung is a complete distortion of what De'Santis was trying to say. Even if you don't agree with his position, it doesnt mean you (the OP) needs to go to the lowest place, one could just be an adult about it.

Don't use rational and even-handed thought. It confuses so many on this board.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Why is this in the Political Satire forum ?

 

[Arlette]

Don't use rational and even-handed thought. It confuses so many on this board.

Hey, I need a slave. And you may learn something. How about it?

 

[Yarddog]

Hey, I need a slave. And you may learn something. How about it?

Sheeshh ! I think you just proved his point.

 

[Arlette]

Sheeshh ! I think you just proved his point.

If you need to whitewash slavery you're a racist. Thankfully the Meatball will get no opportunity to make America like Florida.

 

[MisterBeale]

Purchased from whom?

The remnants of the Songhai empire.

After the gold was gone, the tribal warring states, were desperate for anything of value, at that point? They started trading flesh.

If it hadn't been for the Muslims in the North invading them? There probably would have been no slave trade.

They had been such an AMAZING civilization.

Romans & Celts would have stooped to such a thing too, if they had been in such a sorry state. . . . IN fact, they did!

7. The Songhai Empire - Africa's Age of Gold​