While Bush Falters, Americans Respond

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    Students and church goers do their best for Darfur as Bush does jack shit:

    From the NYT Select: Nick Kristof's newest column

     
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    honestly, private donations should be the way foreign aid is done. I dont like how much money we waste on foreign interests that have nothing to do with our interests. Such as all the money we pour into Africa, Malasia, the middle East, South America, etc. We just send money over for nothing in return and rarely do we receive even a thank you for any aid we give.

    Darfur is the UN's fuckup. US will get to it eventually but we have other more pressing issues to deal with that involve our country. We are already wasting enough time not finishing this war. We need to focus on one thing and stop multitasking these other big things (speaking in foreign terms). Do one thing right then goto the next.
     
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    It may be too late for anyone to do anything about Darfur. I can't really fault Bush here, the US just cannot do something like that alone. We don't have the vital interests needed to redirect resources there-as we did for the tsunami, Katrina, and now will in India/Pakistan-all while fighting a multi-front war. There are limits and resources are finite.
     
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    Jihad must be stopped whenever possible. Clinton never stopped jihad in the 90's, and it flourished. Now, after 4 years of waging war against the jihadists, we are content to let it flourish again, from S. Thailand to Darfur.

    Jihad will never stop unless we exact a terrible price from the jihadists every time they initiate it.
     
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    But but but...that would mean we would have to..act unilaterally! And that would mean diplomats not having tea and biscuits with Arab diplomats! And poor, poor Mr. Clinton being left out of the European coctail circuit! Come to your senses man!

    The important thing is not to act like we are concerned, heavens no! Any low-bred cowboy can do that. Sophisticated gentry know that the most important thing one can do in situations like these is to issue Stern Admonitions and form a committee or a Task Force that has no forces and does no tasks. This way, a Spirit of Cooperation is encouraged, and all participating nations feel better about themselves. Except...what's that place? Oh...Darfur. Except Darfur. But their African, so they'll probly just get eaten by a lion or something anyway. Just think! By making the ultimate sacrifice, they are helping to ensure the Spirit of Understanding and Peace and Cooperation lives on!

    Pass the shrimp!
     
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    Hey im all for it. But we need to finish the job we started first. then we can talk these other things like Iran, NK, Darfur, wherever the enemy chooses to promote its evil religion. We dont have the resources to fight in Darfur and Afghan/Iraq as well as continue hunting down terror cells around the world. Thats why i say this is another in the long list of UN fuckups. US cant solve all the worlds problems.
     
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    I agree the UN is worthless.

    We're not asking for invasion... just a short, targeted campaign of assasination and surgical strikes against Janjaweed (arab jihadists) and the Sudanese military that is cooperating with them. We must begin to make these bastards BLEED for the jihad they're committing. Our missile technicians and pilots can use additional target training anyway.
     
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    All for killing Muslim assholes. But right now i want the ones that keep mucking up the works in Iraq surgically destroyed.
     
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    I sincerely believe that they are all connected (not physically of course). I think NATO is on the right track here and we need to send a strong message (read "cruise missile" or other PGM) to some of these other terrorists. If we truly are in a global war on terror, we need to fight it globally....and that includes Dafur, et al. Lob a few bursts of democracy in there just to let em know that they are on the list and that we haven't forgotten them....


    Screw the UN and everyone else. Obviously, all the talk about the US acting unilaterally is merely cover for the Europeans and the UN (not to mention any other country) lack of will to do anything at all!
     
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    Private aid and low taxes is how everything should be done. But as long as this government insists on forcing us to pay taxes for corporate welfare the taxpayers have a right to go light on voluntary donations. It's one or the other. High taxes and low charity, or low taxes and high charity. Both is ridiculous.
     

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