Where are these government-slashing Republicans I keep hearing about?

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    Two weeks ago The New York Times reported that Republicans "want a vastly smaller government." Last week the Times called the dispute about raising the federal debt ceiling "an epic clash over the parties' divergent views on the size and role of the federal government." This week it said President Obama faces "a conservative movement seeking a wholesale redefinition of the proper role of government."

    The recent debt deal, widely portrayed as a victory for Republicans, suggests their goals are decidedly less ambitious. As always in Washington, the "epic clash" perceived by the Times is in fact a squabble between two parties that both favor big government.

    The debt deal, which authorizes the federal government to borrow another $2.1 trillion on top of the $14.3 trillion it already owes, supposedly includes "$2.5 trillion in cuts." But as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) emphasizes, those are cuts from a projected baseline in which the national debt grows by $10 trillion during the next decade, which means "the BEST case scenario is still $7 trillion more in debt over the next 10 years."


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    If you had bothered to look at the no votes on the deal you would see those nasty tea party people voted no as the real deals were continually nixed by democrats.

    So you had a minority fighting the establishment of democrats and republicans willing to play along with democrats. The award for their bravery was to be called terrorists and racists.
     
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    The majority of the Tea Party Caucus voted for the deal.
     
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    Really? And just how many are there?
     
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    Yes, really. Were you unaware of that when you said "those nasty tea party people voted no"?
     
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    The Tea Party hasn't gotten into the GOP leadership yet. Once they do, then you'll start to see radical changes in how the GOP operates, and probably a sea change in this nation politically, for the better as government is put on fiscal gastric bypass
     
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    Post up Francis because the no votes were about equal as the new freshman.
     
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    The Tea Party Folded. Straight up. IMO there done, at least as part of the Republican Party.
     
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    How do you figure that?
     
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    It's just how I feel.

    They Caved. We needed Deeper cuts, and to address entitlements. The Credit Rating people had made that pretty clear.

    Plus they allowed the next debate to be Pushed past the next election. Which is a Huge ass plus for Obama.

    So IMO they failed miserably. I still give them credit for turning the Debate from How much can we spend, to how do we cut spending, But I think they are doomed to fail in the Republican Party. Which is really Morphed into just another Big Government Party.
     

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