Where are the job bills?

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    Obama has created the most anti-business climate in US history..................where are the jobs?



    LOL



    14 trillion in debt
    trillions in unfunded healthcare socialism
    Tax Tax tax
    regulate everything
    Punish success
    Tax capital
    Death taxes
    Wars
    wars
    wars
    and more wars






    Duh?


    But?
     
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    Those opposed to NPR and PBS never discuss the content. They simply and wrongly claim both are 'liberal' propaganda. Clearly they never watch/listen or if they do so with a biased perspective and a closed mind.

    Government can create jobs, only the ignorant, liars or fools state otherwise.
     
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    I doubt there will be more job bills, because they aren't needed. The private sector is creating jobs.
     
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    This thread had to be started by a lefty. Only a dumb lib lefty would think jobs come from government bills. Our education system is a collosal glittering failure. God help the USA.
     
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    The Right contends that government can't really create jobs, only the private sector can create jobs, which is nonsense. Of course the government can create jobs. Even thou tax dollars are used, a job is a job. The theory of course is that if tax dollars were not used to create government jobs, those dollars would be used to create private sector jobs. Just because those dollars are left in hands of the public and businesses does not mean they will be used to create jobs. A business goes not expand just because it has additional dollars. Also those dollars may be used to create jobs abroad.

    It's always better to have job creation from the private sector because it produces goods and services that provide economic stimulus, but when the economy is contracting business will not expand until the business feels the bottom has been reached and there are signs of recover. So during the economic contraction, the choice is between no new jobs and government jobs.
     
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    Mr. Fate offers opinion, and an opinion which is not his own. If he had evidence of his opinion I'm sure he would have offered some proof.
     
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    Democrats Plan to Unveil Make it in America Agenda
    The second-ranking House Democrat, Steny Hoyer of Maryland, unveiled his caucus’ agenda to revitalize the manufacturing industry in a speech Tuesday.

    Next week, Democrats will release what they dub as their “Make it in America” agenda. Last year, Democrats introduced a similar platform that included legislation that would compel lawmakers and administration officials to balance the trade deficit, develop a national manufacturing strategy, confront China on its manipulated currency and close tax loopholes for outsourcers, among other things.


    Democrats Plan to Unveil Make it in America Agenda | Economy In Crisis
     
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    Good idea. I think a lot of people prefer to buy American. A program to encourage the purchase of American made goods could be the spark that revitalizes American manufacturing. We need to start by clearly labeling products that are American made. I doubt people know which Kenmore appliances are American made. And that goes for Maytag, Amana, or Oreck. The multinational corporations don't care where they manufacture as long as it maximizes profits. If Americans want American made goods, you can bet they will be provided.

    Still Made in USA.com - American-Made Home Appliances
     
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    Never stated the Fed propped up the numbers, I stated that the cause was printing money and that was what was propping up the economy. The govt is and has been printing money in order to "save us", read up in this link as you stated untruths from me The Problem With the Federal Reserve's Money-Printing - WSJ.com
    You can choose to ignore that fact but eventually inflation will come into play. As far as unemployment goes, The Labor Department's statistics don't include the underemployed and those who have stopped looking for work. The Bureau of Labor statistics shows the actual number at 16.6%. Real unemployment rate higher than federal figures - MSN Money - New Investor Center

    You can also choose to ignore the deficit and state that it does not affect the current economic situation but at some point, probably in the mid 30's for my kids ( they are both early 20's), they will bear the burden of the run away spending from the past 2 administrations. Please explain how a 14 trillion and counting deficit does not affect our economy...this should be fun
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    The fact that both parties feel like they can't touch entitlement spending is irrelevant as it is one if the 3 major contributing factors in reducing the deficit. I realize the govt has created a "cradle to grave nanny state" but without making changes, this country's economic system will eventually fail. You may not care since it might not happen in the immediate future, I do.
     
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    I care. I simply didn't see the need for my tax dollars paying for interest on loans to conduct a war of choice off budget; billions of dollars spent on foreign aid and billions more given to the oil cartel. If the payroll tax had been placed in a locked box as Gore advocated, the entitlement argument would not hold water.
    Why the fuck is the GOP framing their argument on the backs of labor and simultaniously advocate tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Why scapegoat the aged, infirm and poor? Because it works to attack the weak, and since these groups rarely donate to any party, the GOP has no incentive to care for the needy.
    The Federal Income Tax needs to be newly structured; made more progressive by adding more brackets to increase revenue - revenue used to reduce debt. Likewise, the limit on payroll taxes should be raised to at least $250,000 and placed in a locked box.
    The argument that raising taxes will create more unemployment is weak; if tax cuts worked to increase unemployment we wouldn't be in the economic mess we find ourselves today.
     

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