I read these posts in these threads and it's all arguing in circles that turns into over exaggeration and name calling with no intelligent debate anywhere. When will it stop? I guess it will stop when the American people get off their collective asses and figure out that all politicians are the same. They all want the same thing, which is power and control over the people, over us. It's not about money, and we all know it has nothing to do with what's best for this great country. The only thing they want is to keep you, me and everyone in this country docile. They, the politicians get us arguing over idiotic stuff like health care, abortion or how much money someone makes. All the while, both parties are planning our future of slavery and servitude to them, the government. I know you don't want to believe it, but I'm afraid this is our future and it's not too far off, especially since the SCOTUS found it constitutional to tax someone for not having something.