When I signed up for the draft in Aug 1971

shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

In 1971 all males at 18 had to sign up for the draft, now what is the rest of your story?
Did you get drafted or enlist? If you believed in your country and the war, why wait for the draft, you should have enlisted.
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

In 1971 all males at 18 had to sign up for the draft, now what is the rest of your story?
Did you get drafted or enlist? If you believed in your country and the war, why wait for the draft, you should have enlisted.

One can join the military without enlisting, or being drafted...just saying. But I do get your main point.
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

You signed up for the draft?

What the fuck does that mean?

There was a draft lottery from 1969 to 1975. Every American male had to 'sign up for the draft' when he turned 18. You received a letter from the government that you had to sign and return.

Selective Service System: History and Records
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

You signed up for the draft?

What the fuck does that mean?

There was a draft lottery from 1969 to 1975. Every American male had to 'sign up for the draft' when he turned 18. You received a letter from the government that you had to sign and return.

Selective Service System: History and Records

Thats fine but thats not impressive, and the OP should stop trying to beat his chest about it. This is the 10,000th time he has told us about it.
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

In 1971 all males at 18 had to sign up for the draft, now what is the rest of your story?
Did you get drafted or enlist? If you believed in your country and the war, why wait for the draft, you should have enlisted.

Thats the end of the story, ginscpy didn't do jack shit.
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .


I did likewise. Sorry but I wouldn't fight for the trash living in this country for any amount.

We reaped what we sowed and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Agreed!!!!

"I spent 33 years and 4 months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force--the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from second lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism. I suspected I was part of a racket all the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service." - Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC (1881-1940)


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shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

In 1971 all males at 18 had to sign up for the draft, now what is the rest of your story?
Did you get drafted or enlist? If you believed in your country and the war, why wait for the draft, you should have enlisted.

Thats the end of the story, ginscpy didn't do jack shit.

you didn't either so you are even
 
We were taught that we had to obey. At 18 we signed because we thought we were adults and it was our responsibility.
With the arrival of wisdom, that changed.

I dind't want to make waves.

When you are about to turn 18- just go with the flow..................

Or, you go hide out in Paris, living in the lap of luxury.

Thank you for your service to your country.
 
shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

You signed up for the draft in 1971 because of what occurred at 12:30 CST on November 22, 1963.

President Kennedy's Television Interviews on Vietnam
September 2 and 9, 1963

MR. CRONKITE. Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment is of course the one in Viet-Nam, and we have our difficulties here, quite obviously.

PRESIDENT KENNEDY. I don't think that unless a greater effort is made by the Government to win popular support that the war can be won out there. In the final analysis, it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it. We can help them, we can give them equipment, we can send our men out there as advisers, but they have to win it—the people of Viet-Nam—against the Communists. We are prepared to continue to assist them, but I don't think that the war can be won unless the people support the effort, and, in my opinion, in the last 2 months the Government has gotten out of touch with the people.

Virtual JFK: Vietnam If Kennedy Had Lived

In public, Kennedy had maintained the posture that a U.S presence in Vietnam was essential, to prevent "a collapse not only of South Vietnam but of Southeast Asia."

Yet Kennedy had committed only to the presence of thousands of U.S. military advisers in Vietnam, not active combatants. He wanted to help teach South Vietnam, a U.S. ally, to fight for itself against Communist-led North Vietnam.

Out of the glare of TV cameras, he repeatedly fought with U.S. generals and other hawks who wanted to replace the advisers with soldiers. He told then-defense secretary Robert McNamara that he wanted to begin withdrawing advisers by the end of 1963, and to be completely out of Vietnam by the end of 1965.

What happened after his assassination was the exact opposite: president Johnson decided to send tens of thousands of soldiers to Vietnam, believing a war could be quickly and decisively fought and won.

Johnson's gambit proved pure folly. When the war finally ended in 1975 with America's haphazard withdrawal, more than 58,000 Americans and two million Vietnamese had been killed.

Tecnically we signed up because we had to.
 
I enlisted in the Navy because I grew up watching Victory at Sea. So, shortly after my 18th birthday I registered for the draft, a few months later I saw a Navy Recuiter.

Side note. I'm a college grad with an advanced degree and spent 32 years in LE. Lots of education and training but the best training by far was in the Butter Cup at Treasure Island.

The Butter Cup was a section of a Cruiser, we mustered on the 'deck' and were told to go below and sit or lie on a rack no other instructions. After hanging out for several minutes we heard over the 1MC the claxon followed by, "GENERAL QUARTERS, GENERAL QUARTERS THIS IS NOT A DRILL, MAN YOUR BATTLE STATIONS!"

We looked at each other, none knowing what we were expected to do when we began to hear sounds of a battle, big guns and lots of smaller cannon fire. Soon the enitre section we were in seemed to shake and the lights went out, ice cold sea water began to fill the compartment. Guys tried the hatch at the top of the ladder and called out, "were locked in". When the water reached my chin - I'm 6' 2" - the lights came on and the water began to recede. Some guys were actually treading water holding on to stanchions.

The hatch opened and we filed out onto the deck dripping wet and sat down. We were then trained in damage control and later in the day once again went below. This time we held the water to knee level.

See: http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=35330

For how it's done today.
 
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shortly before my 18 birthday I went to the Selective Service office ,

Had visions of ricepaddies in Nam

But I believedi n my country .

You signed up for the draft?

What the fuck does that mean?

There was a draft lottery from 1969 to 1975. Every American male had to 'sign up for the draft' when he turned 18. You received a letter from the government that you had to sign and return.

Selective Service System: History and Records

When I signed up in July of 67, you were required to present yourself at your local draft board. I was working in Northern Ontario when I turned 18, so was able to register by mail.
I returned to the States in November and from then on until I was drafted in April of '69 (not taken) I would occasionally visit my local draft board, sing a few bars of "Alice's Restaurant" and walk out.
 

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