PubliusInfinitum
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You say we don't have an interventionist foreign policy and then you go and defend certain facets of an interventionist foreign policy.
So you feel that the US troops stationed in Germany is interventionist?
ROFLMNAO... it becomes clear at this point why you're hesitant 'to argue over words.'
The cost of stationing troops in at least 130 different countries, the two wars we're fighting, and the economic aid we give to nations such as Israel is going to bankrupt our nation.
The US is not fighting two wars... we're fighting one war in dozens of countries; most of which you've never nor will you likely EVER hear a word about.
As to the costs of stationing those troops, one needs to set costs next to the benefits they provide. For instance, how much will it cost to have to free Europe and Asia again?
Interventionism isn't keeping our country safe.
Americans do not advocate for intervening into the internal affairs of ohr nations... we DO however advocate for protecting US interests and we're not really concerned with how leftist 'feel' about it. For Christ sake you people just elected a MARXIST MUSLIM AS PRESIDENT OF THE US, ONLY 7 YEARS AFTER THE US WAS ATTACKED BY MARXIST MUSLIMS AND IS PRESENTLY AT WAR WITH A LARGE SEGMENT OF THAT EVIL BEAST.
What right do we have to force Democracy on other nations at the point of a gun?
The right of self defense... Free nations aren't as likely to allow their government to advance policy wherein they use terrorist proxies to attack those who will kick the living shit of of those that do...
It's not guarantee of course, but it's a fair bet.
It simply makes these people resent us even more than they already do, and helps terrorists such as Osama bin-Laden recruit new members to his organization.
False... you're perpetuating a myth. The US is not encouraging terrorists,
we're hunting them down and killing them where we find them; a policy with a 100% efficacy...
Now we're prepared to kill as many as it takes... and while we'd like to see them see the light and cease their evil acts today, our pursuit of them will not end until the Marxists takes office and begins to undermine US security in earnest. But again... we're a patient people and we've no problem waiting for you idiots to load that camel up, certain that you'll never be held accountable for your treason. Keep loadin'...
Osama has stated that he wants us over there, we've played right into his hands.
It is FASCINATING to me, to see you place SO MUCH stock on what Osama says... Hmmm.... what CAN WE MAKE OF THAT?
Isn't cool how these people NEVER FAIL to give the terrorists the benefit of their flaccid little doubts?
What possible reason could we have for stationing troops in Germany? Last I checked the Nazis were no longer in power.
So ya feel that the US stationed troops in Germany to stop the Nazis?
ROFLMNAO...
The Nazis were no longer in power when the US permanently stationed troops in Germany; which are there to provide the US with the means to project force in the pursuit of the protection of US interests in that region.
In 1953 we helped Great Britain restore a military dictator to power in Iran, by removing a popularly elected official.
A communists... Well if it makes you feel any better, the US just elected a communist.
He was a communist...Why did we do this?
The Prime Minister wanted to nationalize Iran's oil fields which Great Britain had an interest in. Is this the type of interest we have in foreign countries that we need to protect?
Yeah... that's what I said; he was a communist.
Thomas Jefferson said, ""Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations entangling alliances with none." It's about time we began adhering to this sensible advice.
Thomas Jefferson said a lot of things; most of which is taken out of context, with this being no exception. Perhaps you'll find where Jefferson explained how the US could avoid that which comes with honest friendship by default: Entangling alliance.
It should be noted that Jefferson came to power in the wake of John Adam's refusal to go to war with France... who you may or may not recall was 'bestest good friend' of the US in our Revolution... The quote you're citing was stated during Jefferson's inaguaral address, after he aand his supporters had blundgeoned Adam's with Adam's isolationist policies wherein he refused to go to war with France. What's more the foundation of the United States rests on nothing BUT interventionaist policy... wherein the founders of the US intervened into the government of Great Britain.