What so great about Progressivism

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  1. Mr.Fitnah
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    Since we are going down that road what is it all about?

    What is Obamas new system
    Now that we have fundamentally changed America?

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    Well I guess Ill start.

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    Progressivism is a political and social term that refers to ideologies and movements favoring or advocating changes or reform, usually in a statist or egalitarian direction for economic policies (government management) and liberal direction for social policies (personal choice). Progressivism is often viewed in opposition to conservative ideologies.
    In the United States, the term progressivism emerged in the late 19th century into the 20th century in reference to a more general response to the vast changes brought by industrialization: an alternative to both the traditional conservative response to social and economic issues and to the various more radical streams of socialism and anarchism which opposed them. Political parties, such as the Progressive Party, organized at the start of the 20th century, and progressivism made great strides under American presidents Theodore Roosevelt, William H. Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson.[1]
    Despite being associated with left-wing politics, the term "progressive" has also been used by groups not particularly left-wing. The Progressive Democrats in the Republic of Ireland took the name "progressivism" despite being considered centre-right, or classical liberal. The European Progressive Democrats was a mainly heterogeneous political group in the European Union. For most of the period from 1942-2003, the largest conservative party in Canada was the Progressive Conservative Party.

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    Change occurs over decades, not days...

    We are now at the dead end Reaganomics led us down...

    America was founded on a VERY progressive idea...especially in Thomas Jefferson's day.. a world of kings and the "right of kings"...

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...


    The ONLY reason America has led the world in anything was because of progressive thinking...

    The ancestors of conservatives resisted "change" ...they supported King George...


    The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.
    Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935
     
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    Hmmmm....would that make them "unpatriotic"?
     
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    corruption and deliberate fraud has brought us to where we are, not a failure of capitalism
     
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    There is no end to new wants , the problem is now, government being the new giver.
    That should make you feel like a real man.
     
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    No, our founders were traitors...
     
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    i.e., un-patriotic to their King?
     
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    It is a DIRECT failure of unregulated corporations and subsidized capitalism...the rest is human nature...that never changes...
     
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    Yep!...but not the conservatives, they were loyal lobster-backs...lol
     

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