rtwngAvngr said:Why don't you tell us which motives would justify stealing a television? That'll be more fun.
No shit. This, I've GOT to hear.
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rtwngAvngr said:Why don't you tell us which motives would justify stealing a television? That'll be more fun.
deaddude said:what are your motives for taking the television?
gop_jeff said:Welcome ffafanatic!
Deaddude, honestly, what circumstances can you think up in which stealing your TV would be justified?
Or, even better, since you refuse to accept that raping children is always morally wrong, in what situation would it be morally correct to do that?
You only allow the kid to develop bad habits with this sort of coddling. The next homeowner may blow a hole in him for entering his property. You're allowing him to continue habits which will only make his life worse. You're doing nobody a favor, except satan.deaddude said:A homeless kid steals my TV; fences it off and uses the money to buy some food.
I dont need the TV (and hell I can afford another one), he Needs food. If he were caught eating his meal and I understood the motives and circumstanses for his crime, I would not press charges, nor would I begrudge him the TV.
I already told you that I could not imagine a case where rapeing a child is not against my morals. I f you would kindly read my previous posts you would see that. That just proves that my personal moral state cannont concieve of a situation in which rapeing children was right.
deaddude said:Now your getting into semantics, you can say that I thought it was wrong and for gave him and I can say I thought that he was not wrong to take the tv. It is now you say x and I say y, niether of us can prove either.
Also RWA, you cannot prove a moral absolute simply because niether of us can think of a situation in which the act of raping a child is not wrong. It is a very stong and effective moral guidline (which I equate to a well tested scientific theory)
and RWA I don't believe in Satan, much as I dont believe in God, this lack of belief prevents me from serveing either.
deaddude said:Now your getting into semantics, you can say that I thought it was wrong and for gave him and I can say I thought that he was not wrong to take the tv. It is now you say x and I say y, niether of us can prove either.
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deaddude said:"to take and carry away without right or permission"
Nice definition, but unless you are going to argue that the right used in the definition is the moral "right and wrong" right, it says nothing about morality.
deaddude said:There are many standards, premeditated murder is punishable by death. murder in the heat of the moment is punishable by life in prison. killing someone in self defence is not punishable at all.