dilloduck
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Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
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Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
"Justification?" As in what? Alimony? Child support? Social programs?
I think it depends on what you're referring to. In a case like child support, no we shouldn't have to force a parent to provide for their child. But since so many parents fail to do so willingly, the other parent is forced to rely on the court system forcing the irresponsible parent to do what's right.
I can't really think of another situation in which it would be appropriate to force someone to financially provide for someone else. Providing for someone else, other than your child, should really be a choice. My boyfriend chooses to work hard to provide for me and the kids, but no one forces him to. If he decided he didn't want to provide for me, I would get a job and provide for myself.
I think there are situations in which it would be appropriate, when possible, to provide for someone else, such as aging parents, disabled siblings, things like that. But those shouldn't be required. It's one of those things where if you're a good person, and you can afford it, you should and would do it, but no one can or should make you.
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
The influential men Nietzsche met at Leipzig helped Nietzsche gain access to professorship at Basel University, an endorsement rarely granted one as young as he was at the time (Stanford, 2007). Although his intellect undoubtedly warranted such dispensation, clearly Nietzsche enjoyed access and promotion other men, the masses, did not. That Nietzsche enjoyed the benefits of the upper classes is evident in his posture towards ordinary people, and perhaps his antipathy to democracy is a reflection of that status. That he considers the vagaries of chance smiling on him to be a mark of merit rather than dumb luck is a peculiarity of the “self made man” of any era.
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Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
I think it depends on what you're referring to. In a case like child support, no we shouldn't have to force a parent to provide for their child. But since so many parents fail to do so willingly, the other parent is forced to rely on the court system forcing the irresponsible parent to do what's right.
I can't really think of another situation in which it would be appropriate to force someone to financially provide for someone else. Providing for someone else, other than your child, should really be a choice. My boyfriend chooses to work hard to provide for me and the kids, but no one forces him to. If he decided he didn't want to provide for me, I would get a job and provide for myself.
I think there are situations in which it would be appropriate, when possible, to provide for someone else, such as aging parents, disabled siblings, things like that. But those shouldn't be required. It's one of those things where if you're a good person, and you can afford it, you should and would do it, but no one can or should make you.
So I am required to help finance a system that forces a parent to take care of his/her own child ?
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
"Justification?" As in what? Alimony? Child support? Social programs?
Anything. What is the justification for taxing me and using that money to spend on anyone else ?
Why am I forced to provide for those who are deemed unable to provide for themselves ?
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
There isn't a justification for it, unless one believes he is responsible for that over which he has no control. It's not legislating morality. It's state-sanctioned theft.Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
The income most people earn wouldn't be possible without the supporting infrastructure, including the government. The idea that one owes nothing in return is not only selfish, it's completely illogical.
Now if you want to discuss HOW MUCH one owes in return and/or WHERE it get's allocated, that is a different debate altogether.
Are we as a country legislating morality because people are naturally too selfish to voluntarily help each other ?
Where is this coming from? American private citizens as well as government have always been diligent and generous in voluntarily helping others by giving to charities, providing emergency and/or disaster aid. How is that selfish?
Morality cannot be legislated - you either have it or you don't.
As far as TAKING money from the rich and giving it to the poor - there will always be exceptions to the rule. Those wealthy who worship at the feet of a dictator will always get special treatment on many levels ... but only because they are useful to the dictator.