JimBowie1958
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The libtards and Neocon owned corporate networks are crowing that Trump is 'softening his stance' on illegals in the country.
Now my understanding of Trumps position is that he was going to make all of them leave the country and that those long here with American citizens for children who have been here five, ten or more years would have to do a 'touchback' and go to their home country and apply for a work visa or guest card of some kind from there.
Once duly registered into the system as applying to stay, they could return to their homes and jobs, etc. They would have to pay all back taxes and fines and would not be put on a 'road to citizenship' like McCain, Rubio, Jeb! and Romney wanted to do.
But some people seem to think that the only way to avoid this being an amnesty is to round them all up and pack them in cattle carts and ship them to the border and dumped without a single exception, ignoring the fact that many of the children will be American citizens and also ignoring the simple truth that we ass a nation are also partly responsible for having allowed our government to tolerate this invasion into our country for twenty years and more.
The dictionary defines amnesty as:
n, pl -ties
1. a general pardon, esp for offences against a government
2. a period during which a law is suspended to allow offenders to admit their crime without fear of prosecution
3. (Law) law a pardon granted by the Crown or Executive and effected by statute
vb, -ties, -tying or -tied
(tr) to overlook or forget (an offence)
Now no one is going to be pardoned. No one is forgiving a damned thing or overlooking it any more under the thin details that Trump is considering.
But most importantly THERE IS NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. They will have to take the regular application process to do that and that takes a long time. Trump has also said he wants to reform our immigration system to make it more efficient and timely, but he wants it to be set up to benefit AMERICAN WORKERS and not corporate profits.
From what I see, Trump is still within the very rough lines of what he has proposed from the start, but as it comes closer to the details he finds reasonable the corporate shills wills trt to cheerfully denounce anything he does as a flip flop and an amnesty, when their self serving past record is almost across the border in favor of a shorter path to citizenship for illegals and to look the other way as corporations enrich themselves by importing an increasing number of black market laborers.
Trumps plan, as given thus far, is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT and, in the words of Ronald Reagan, the 80% conservative is not a 20% enemy.
Now my understanding of Trumps position is that he was going to make all of them leave the country and that those long here with American citizens for children who have been here five, ten or more years would have to do a 'touchback' and go to their home country and apply for a work visa or guest card of some kind from there.
Once duly registered into the system as applying to stay, they could return to their homes and jobs, etc. They would have to pay all back taxes and fines and would not be put on a 'road to citizenship' like McCain, Rubio, Jeb! and Romney wanted to do.
But some people seem to think that the only way to avoid this being an amnesty is to round them all up and pack them in cattle carts and ship them to the border and dumped without a single exception, ignoring the fact that many of the children will be American citizens and also ignoring the simple truth that we ass a nation are also partly responsible for having allowed our government to tolerate this invasion into our country for twenty years and more.
The dictionary defines amnesty as:
n, pl -ties
1. a general pardon, esp for offences against a government
2. a period during which a law is suspended to allow offenders to admit their crime without fear of prosecution
3. (Law) law a pardon granted by the Crown or Executive and effected by statute
vb, -ties, -tying or -tied
(tr) to overlook or forget (an offence)
Now no one is going to be pardoned. No one is forgiving a damned thing or overlooking it any more under the thin details that Trump is considering.
But most importantly THERE IS NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. They will have to take the regular application process to do that and that takes a long time. Trump has also said he wants to reform our immigration system to make it more efficient and timely, but he wants it to be set up to benefit AMERICAN WORKERS and not corporate profits.
From what I see, Trump is still within the very rough lines of what he has proposed from the start, but as it comes closer to the details he finds reasonable the corporate shills wills trt to cheerfully denounce anything he does as a flip flop and an amnesty, when their self serving past record is almost across the border in favor of a shorter path to citizenship for illegals and to look the other way as corporations enrich themselves by importing an increasing number of black market laborers.
Trumps plan, as given thus far, is a HUGE IMPROVEMENT and, in the words of Ronald Reagan, the 80% conservative is not a 20% enemy.
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