What if Obama/Left Wing/OWS got their laws, but the rich just said "NO" and refused?

[bigrebnc1775]

You are presenting a nonfactual hypothetical, so what kind of answer are you expecting?

Any rich person who refused to pay taxes would of course be treated exactly the way rich people who refuse to pay their taxes are treated now. The idea that three million would risk prison sentences to do that is nonsensical; these are people with a lot to lose, and who are (mostly) in the habit of obeying the law (they get politicians to write the laws to their design, so that's generally not a problem).

By the way, it's not three million. That would be one percent of the entire population of all ages. It's more like one to one and a half million.

Who pays more money in taxes the person who makes fifty thousand a year at 25%
Or the person who make forty million a year at 15 percent?

 

[Dragon]

Or the person who make forty million a year at 15 percent?

Check this out while I do the math. Non sequitur (logic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bucs90]

Why can't you lefties say it? You and I both know it's true.

You all, if you had your way, would pass countless laws to shape society in your image of "fairness" and "equality". And humans by nature are rebellious and dont like shit like that. There would obviously be a LOT of resistance to a society that went through drastic social and economic "fairness" changes.

Your ideology would only be put in place through violent force used to force compliance.

History shows thats the ONLY way left wing ideologies of force fairness and forced equality happen.

 

[georgephillip]

C'mon left wingers. Help me here. We can pass these laws you guys are protesting over and demanding we have.

But what if the 3,000,000 Americans we are gonna target simply say "NO, I wont comply with that."?????????

Then what?

Ask Wesley.

"Actor Wesley Snipes reported to a medium-security Pennsylvania prison Thursday to begin a three-year sentence for failing to file tax returns.

"The 48-year-old actor is now incarcerated in McKean Federal Correctional Institution in Lewis Run, officials said.

"Snipes' attorney said he is appealing his client's misdemeanor convictions for not filing tax returns in 1999, 2000 and 2001."

Snipes earned $37 million over five years and didn't think he owed any taxes on that money.
Do you?

Actor Wesley Snipes reports to prison to begin sentence - CNN

 

[bucs90]

So we would just "round up" 3,000,000 people? What if we tried, and they said "No".

What if Wesley Snipes had said "No, you are not taking me to jail for simply refusing to forfeit my property over to you for no good cause". What would happen to him?

What if a boss refused an OWS inspired law that mandates a "fair wage" to his employees but instead paid them what they make now? And when they came to enforce the law, he continued to say "No".

Lefties......your ideology always ends in either violence or slavery.

 

[Utilitarian]

What if the left wing, Obama and OWS got their preferred laws passed. Ones which would tax at a much higher rate the rich, and that reallocated wealth from rich individuals and companies to...well, not sure where, but just not to them.

But what if the 1%, which would be 3,000,000 Americans, simply said "NO, we will not cooperate with that." If they simply refused to pay the higher taxes. If they refused to comply with those laws. If they just said "We already pay a higher rate than others. We pay more total dollars than others. We will not comply with this."

What then? Would we "round up" 3,000,000 Americans and imprison them? We've been told thats impossible to do, since we have no way to "round up" that many people, right?

Left wingers, what would you propose we do if the rich refuse to cooperate????????

The elite get almost everything they want, so I don't know why you're even asking this.

By the way, Obama isn't really on the same side of OWS. He may pretend that he is, but he's funded by Goldman Sachs.

The system has been bought, so barring any true revolution, the wealthy have little to fear.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Or the person who make forty million a year at 15 percent?

Check this out while I do the math. Non sequitur (logic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Who pay's more money?

 

[bucs90]

So, under an OWS inspired government set of laws, we would have to choose either:

1- Less freedoms in our life
2- Prison for disobeying

Wow. That sounds all hopey changey.

 

[bucs90]

BigReb, it's taken him almost an hour to figure out 15% of a few million is MORE than 25% of a few thousand.

Typical lefty.

 

[pete]

You are presenting a nonfactual hypothetical, so what kind of answer are you expecting?

Any rich person who refused to pay taxes would of course be treated exactly the way rich people who refuse to pay their taxes are treated now. The idea that three million would risk prison sentences to do that is nonsensical; these are people with a lot to lose, and who are (mostly) in the habit of obeying the law (they get politicians to write the laws to their design, so that's generally not a problem).

By the way, it's not three million. That would be one percent of the entire population of all ages. It's more like one to one and a half million.

So then what if they take their money and "stash" it. See the left would have you think they are holding back, but the fact is they are still working and making millions keeping things rolling ... so if it was gone ....

 

[Dragon]

Why can't you lefties say it? You and I both know it's true.

No, we don't. Actually, neither of us does. We know it's NOT true, and most likely you do, too, and are talking out your ass. But even if you don't know it's not true, you certainly don't know it is, because no one can know that something is true when it ain't.

While you're puzzling through that one, here's something else for you to think about:

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/27/most-millionaires-support-warren-buffetts-tax-on-the-rich/

When most rich people say they think they should be taxed more, why would we expect mass resistance?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Holy shit...........there are some really dumb people here.

 

[georgephillip]

So we would just "round up" 3,000,000 people? What if we tried, and they said "No".

What if Wesley Snipes had said "No, you are not taking me to jail for simply refusing to forfeit my property over to you for no good cause". What would happen to him?

What if a boss refused an OWS inspired law that mandates a "fair wage" to his employees but instead paid them what they make now? And when they came to enforce the law, he continued to say "No".

Lefties......your ideology always ends in either violence or slavery.

Were lefties responsible for the murder, maiming, incarceration and displacement of millions of Iraqis?

If Rich Wesley had just said "No!" he would have been cuffed and frog marched out of the courtroom.

Did Rich Wesley receive any government assistance during his life?
Like learning how to read?
Did the courts help him safely invest his $37 million over five years?
Did the police help protect his property and person over that time.
NOBODY gets rich alone.
It's a collective effort, and there wouldn't even be any money if not for government

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistic there were 140,025,000 US civilians employed in September of 2011. If we can't find 1.4 million prison cells in this country, we'll rent a few in Mexico.

Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

 

[bucs90]

So we would just "round up" 3,000,000 people? What if we tried, and they said "No".

What if Wesley Snipes had said "No, you are not taking me to jail for simply refusing to forfeit my property over to you for no good cause". What would happen to him?

What if a boss refused an OWS inspired law that mandates a "fair wage" to his employees but instead paid them what they make now? And when they came to enforce the law, he continued to say "No".

Lefties......your ideology always ends in either violence or slavery.

Were lefties responsible for the murder, maiming, incarceration and displacement of millions of Iraqis?

If Rich Wesley had just said "No!" he would have been cuffed and frog marched out of the courtroom.

Did Rich Wesley receive any government assistance during his life?
Like learning how to read?
Did the courts help him safely invest his $37 million over five years?
Did the police help protect his property and person over that time.
NOBODY gets rich alone.
It's a collective effort, and there wouldn't even be any money if not for government

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistic there were 140,025,000 US civilians employed in September of 2011. If we can't find 1.4 million prison cells in this country, we'll rent a few in Mexico.

Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

No, not in Iraq.

BUT............they were in:

USSR
China
North Korea
Burma
Vientam
Russia
Cuba
Venezuela
Nat'l Socialist Party of Germany

But hey, not many examples in the past right?

Big government control equals violence. It's always true. Lefties know this.

One moron above said "What do you think happens when you violate the law?"

Of course. Jail or violence. If the OWS inspired gov't took hold, laws to ensure fairness, social justice and equality would be put into place. Disobey, and you'll be jailed or face violence.

No way to sugar coat it lefties. Just be honest.

 

[BOBO]

All unions are internationally based(global U.N.) such as the...

INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF PAINTERS & ALLIED TRADES.

Police need tax revenue to support their livelihood. Rich don't pay & the police break out the testicle crushers = rich happy to pay any amount! Meanwhile the rich have their property confiscated lock stock & barrel & turned over to the state. The rich & their swollen testicles get shipped off to prison to work for the state. Sounds like nazi Germany... it is for taxes are EXTORTION!!!

What if the left wing, Obama and OWS got their preferred laws passed. Ones which would tax at a much higher rate the rich, and that reallocated wealth from rich individuals and companies to...well, not sure where, but just not to them.

But what if the 1%, which would be 3,000,000 Americans, simply said "NO, we will not cooperate with that." If they simply refused to pay the higher taxes. If they refused to comply with those laws. If they just said "We already pay a higher rate than others. We pay more total dollars than others. We will not comply with this."

What then? Would we "round up" 3,000,000 Americans and imprison them? We've been told thats impossible to do, since we have no way to "round up" that many people, right?

Left wingers, what would you propose we do if the rich refuse to cooperate????????

 

[bucs90]

there wouldn't even be any money if not for government

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That statement alone tells me you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[georgephillip]

there wouldn't even be any money if not for government

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That statement alone tells me you have no clue what you are talking about.

From Article 1 Section 8:

"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Who prints your money?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That statement alone tells me you have no clue what you are talking about.

From Article 1 Section 8:

"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

Who prints your money?

The fed which is privately owned

 

[Dragon]

Were lefties responsible for the murder, maiming, incarceration and displacement of millions of Iraqis?

No, not in Iraq.

BUT............they were in:

USSR
China
North Korea
Burma
Vientam
Russia
Cuba
Venezuela
Nat'l Socialist Party of Germany

Here's another fallacy for you to study about, lest you embarrass yourself again by using it:

False analogy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You were clearly using the term "lefty" in the OP and since then to mean liberals. Now, you are using the term "lefty" to mean Communists and Nazis. While the term "lefty" can be used either way (with less assurance about Nazis than Communists, of course), making an equivalence between the two is completely unwarranted by any logic.

Liberals have not been responsible for any deaths in any of those places.

 

[Luissa]

So not much of an answer from lefties.

Why? B/C they know their ideology can ONLY be installed through armed force.

There is no answer, because your question was stupid.