What else should the federal government require citizens to purchase?

[notatallanti]

How about copies of "Mein Kampf" in the school library, in the name of freedom on information?

 

[notatallanti]

How about over sized police cruisers for patrol comfort -uh - safety?

 

[Listening]

How about raincoats.....Big Brother won't want you to catch a cold.

How about we make people purchase ducolax so that it does not hurt so bad when watching Rachael Maddow.

 

[notatallanti]

How about guns and other weapons for foreign governments that oppose freedom?

 

[g5000]

A voter ID card?

uscitizen wins.

 

[notatallanti]

Most of these powers have long since been assumed by the central government.
It is voters' fault; those who vote for electing charlatans and those who do not vote for allowing so much to go on.

 

[Vast LWC]

A voter ID card?

uscitizen wins.

Damn, I missed where he said that, and said the same thing. LOL.

 

[Darkwind]

You can say goodbye to the Pickup Truck, the SUV, gasoline powered cars.

You will be required to pack your children into flimsy tin-cans that will not go any further than 50 miles from your home. After all, it is in everyone's best interest that electric cars are used. Freedom of movement is just a luxury that you can do without because your freedom to move about the country is too costly to those who cannot afford such things.

A population that is forced to be on foot is much easier to control.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Obesity should be taxed very heavily
If you are determined to be overweight you should be taxed

Stupidity should be taxed. We'd never have to worry about balancing the budget again ( not that we do now)

 

[Darkwind]

It is now possible for your energy usage to be restricted unless you are purchasing your energy from acceptable sources. It is in the best interest of everyone that coal plants be shut down and that you get your energy from solar, wind, and hydro. If these sources of energy are scarce in your area, you will have to be rationed. Why should everyone have to suffer because you want to purchase the wrong kind of energy.

Only approved energy will be allowed.

This will restrict your access to information that is contradictory to the official party line.

 

[notatallanti]

Cigarette smoking is regulated because it pollutes the personal space of others, so limiting things that poison others is equally rational.

 

[Misty]

Excellent op. We are already paying for so many things so ordered by our government. Have you heard about the Obamaphone?

What others don't have, we will buy for them.

They've set a precedent. Although under the "congress can impose tax" law we are fucked anyway.

 

[Sokar]

Democrats like pussy and brag about it, Republicans like pussy and lie about it.

I think you're confused.

We don't like pussy liberals. Some may lie about it. I don't.

Vagina on the other hand, we love that long time. As long as it isn't any of your nasty, unwashed liberal hippy vagina.

 

[Charles_Main]

So, now that a precedent has been set (with the SCOTUS upholding the individual mandate in Obamacare as a constitutional tax) that the federal government can require us to purchase something and tax us if we refuse, what else do you think they should require us to purchase?

I don't think you Grasp the Ruling yet.

The Ruling actually just seriously Curtailed the Congresses Power under the Commerce act.
They ruled it has to be a Tax, Because the Government can not force you to buy something with a Penalty.

So however upset people might be about this ruling. It's not a slam dunk win for Obama by any stretch. It effective Limits the Power of the Government under the Commerce clause, and Forces Obama to Admit what he sold as not a tax increase is a Tax Increase.

They also Ruled the Fed can not Threaten to take away states Existing Federal Funding to Force them to Comply with federal policy.

Meaning they can take away their new money they would have got from this bill, but not all their Medicade Funding like they Threatened.

Meaning things like they did back when they tried to Force all states to Comply with a Federal Speed limit, By threatening to take away their Highway Funding, Was not legal, and was in Fact an Abuse of Federal Power.

Not to mention this Ruling is Sure to Seriously Fire up the Opposition to Obama in NOV.

As a Conservative and Constitutionalists I am Satisfied with this Ruling. Roberts got it dead right. Yes, the Mandate can stand, But not on the Grounds the WH argued. They argued it was not a tax increase, The Court ruled it is only Legal if it is a Tax. By extension they have said the Federal Government can NOT use the Commerce clause to Force you to Buy anything. Because to do that is not Regulating Commerce it's Creating it. The only way they can do it, is by Taxes.

So never again will they be able to Ram anything like this Through, By Lying and claiming it is not a Tax Increase. Period.

To sum it up, This Ruling might look good For Obama in the Short Run, But I don't think it's going to help him in NOV one bit. 60% were against this Bill, now they are just more Pissed off and Intent on sending it's Creator home from the WH. Now He has to go out and Defend what Amounts to a Huge Tax Increase a Big part of Which hits the Middle class hard.

"They also Ruled the Fed can not Threaten to take away states Existing Federal Funding to Force them to Comply with federal policy."

So congress cannot remove funding to force moral issues on a state like anti abortions or gay marriage, etc?

Sure reads that way to me.

 

[Charles_Main]

It is now possible for your energy usage to be restricted unless you are purchasing your energy from acceptable sources. It is in the best interest of everyone that coal plants be shut down and that you get your energy from solar, wind, and hydro. If these sources of energy are scarce in your area, you will have to be rationed. Why should everyone have to suffer because you want to purchase the wrong kind of energy.

Only approved energy will be allowed.

This will restrict your access to information that is contradictory to the official party line.

Only if they stand up in front of us all and Admit they are Raising Taxes to do it.

 

[Darkwind]

What everyone seems to fail to grasp is that with the one ruling, government has been handed unlimited power to control your life and your actions. You are no longer safe from your government, nor are you free to defy your government. This country has been fundamentally altered and we no longer have freedom.

People can list thousands of things that the government can now do to you, and those who worship government will scoff at you, deride you, and call you names. But ever so slowly now, more and more freedoms will be limited and taken under this precedent set by the Court today.

It is the slow creep of tyranny....until one day, our children and grandchildren will discover that they are slaves of the Aristocracy and the state will dictate what talents you have, how you will utilize those talents for the greater good of everyone else, and you will be mandated to know your place.

 

[Darkwind]

It is now possible for your energy usage to be restricted unless you are purchasing your energy from acceptable sources. It is in the best interest of everyone that coal plants be shut down and that you get your energy from solar, wind, and hydro. If these sources of energy are scarce in your area, you will have to be rationed. Why should everyone have to suffer because you want to purchase the wrong kind of energy.

Only approved energy will be allowed.

This will restrict your access to information that is contradictory to the official party line.

Only if they stand up in front of us all and Admit they are Raising Taxes to do it.

They already have.

 

[Charles_Main]

What everyone seems to fail to grasp is that with the one ruling, government has been handed unlimited power to control your life and your actions. You are no longer safe from your government, nor are you free to defy your government. This country has been fundamentally altered and we no longer have freedom.

You clearly did not read the Ruling at all.

I was one of the most Vocal Voices against Upholding the Mandate, Precisely because it would give them so much power to Mandate other things. This Ruling says they CAN NOT do that under the Commerce Clause Period. Which is why the mandate has to be a Tax.

So, While they can try and Force you to Buy things, or Do things, They can only do it through the Tax system. Good luck to them selling a New Tax Increase every time they want to try and force you to buy something. Obama and the Dems had to Repeatedly Lie and say the Mandate was not a Tax, In order to get barely enough support to pass Obama care. Does anyone actually think it would have passed had he been honest and admitted it was a Massive new Tax Increase?

when people actually understand this ruling, and stop reacting with Emotion. They will understand that while it is a small victory for Obama it is a Massive Victory for States rights, and for those who thought Liberal Interpretation of the Commerce clause gave the Government to Much Power.

Not to mention that it is going to be pretty hard now to Argue that this SCOTUS votes on Partisan Political Lines anymore.

As well is likely to Seriously Boost Republican/Conservative Turn out in NOV.

You libs celebrating this would do well to Remember over 60% did not want it, and it was the Main Reason you got hit so hard in the 2010 Election. This Ruling may have just stirred up that kind of Sentiment again.

Really think it is Naive to just assume this helps Obama's Chances at re-election. Had it gone down it clearly would have hurt him, But it being up held is at best a Wash, Because it is still extremely Unpopular.

 

[Darkwind]

What everyone seems to fail to grasp is that with the one ruling, government has been handed unlimited power to control your life and your actions. You are no longer safe from your government, nor are you free to defy your government. This country has been fundamentally altered and we no longer have freedom.

You clearly did not read the Ruling at all.

I did..and understand its implications explicitly.

 

[Intense]

It is now possible for your energy usage to be restricted unless you are purchasing your energy from acceptable sources. It is in the best interest of everyone that coal plants be shut down and that you get your energy from solar, wind, and hydro. If these sources of energy are scarce in your area, you will have to be rationed. Why should everyone have to suffer because you want to purchase the wrong kind of energy.

Only approved energy will be allowed.

This will restrict your access to information that is contradictory to the official party line.

Eat more beans.