Little-Acorn
Gold Member
What does this "A computer crash deleted the emails" story tell us about what's going on in the iRS, really?
The Obamanites have admitted:
1.) The emails vanished because Lerner's own computer (presumably a desktop system provided by the IRS that she personally used) crashed.
(We know this would not have caused the emails to vanish, since they are contained on servers for from Lois Lerner that are backed up daily. This means that if emails are truly gone, they were deliberately and carefully deleted by somebody with detailed knowledge of the IRS email system AND the system of the external agencies that the emails were sent to.)
2.) The missing emails were between Lerner and external agencies such as Treasury, Dept. of Justice, the White House, etc.
(From this, we know that whatever was in the emails the Obamanites wanted covered up, wasn't just stuff that went on in IRS offices. Outside agencies were involved, such as the White House.)
3.) They vanished because "the dog ate my homework".
("Computer crash" is so clearly a bogus excuse, that it is clear that the person who deleted the emails, would much rather face the blizzard of accusations of lying and obstruction it is clearly guilty of here, than face the consequences of whatever is being covered up by this email deletion. Therefore the thing(s) being covered up, are much worse than some low-level person lying and obstructing an investigation.)
4.) Consider too, that the Articles of Impeachment against Richard Nixon, approved by the House committee in 1974, stated that he should be impeached for (a) trying to misuse the IRS to go after his political enemies; (b) lying to Congress's investigative committees, (c) withholding documents subpoenaed by Congress; (d) lying to the public to fool them into thinking a thorough investigation had been done; (e) interfering with investigations by Congressional committees.
So far, we have clear evidence that SOMEBODY did all these things. But all that evidence can be applied, so far, to people inside the IRS - there is no clear evidence that anybody outside the IRS was involved.
Until a bunch of emails between the suspects in the IRS, and people in outside agencies, was suddenly and deliberately deleted. And with an excuse that nobody would ever buy.
Once that happened, it became clear that somebody wanted the communications between the IRS and those outside agencies (Treas, DoJ, White House) covered up... and was willing to face the consequences of such blatant destruction of evidence.
Nixon was about to be impeached for doing exactly that. But as of today, we don't have evidence that Barack Obama ordered documents subpoenaed by Congress withheld. Or that Obama ordered his employees to lie about what they knew. Or that Obama ordered the emails deleted. Or that Obama ordered the IRS to hold up approvals for conservative groups.
We only know, that someone did.
Did the emails between Lois Lerner and groups such as the White House, contain clear evidence that the orders came from the White House? Emails that just got so carefully and thoroughly deleted?
Answer: We don't know what was in those emails. But clearly, somebody certainly didn't want us to know what was in them.
The game just shifted into the big leagues.
Until today, only lower offices of the IRS, were guilty. But now we know that somebody didn't want their communications with higher offices, revealed. And was willing to commit an obviously obstructive act, to keep them secret.
Some IRS IT flunky who decided on his own to delete the emails (which is the lowest level this can now be spun at), can't be impeached. The most that can happen to him, is a firing... no doubt with a very generous separation package, reward for services rendered, and a quiet job with an obscure Democrat consulting firm.
But such a blatant and obvious act of obstruction, sufficient to get Richard Nixon impeached, created a situation much LESS dangerous to the people involved... than the revealing of the contents of those emails, would have created.
That's why those emails were deliberately and thoroughly deleted, in an act that couldn't possibly have been an accident, or a crash of just one computer.
The game just shifted into the big leagues. And it's barely in the first inning. This has just begun to get interesting.
The Obamanites have admitted:
1.) The emails vanished because Lerner's own computer (presumably a desktop system provided by the IRS that she personally used) crashed.
(We know this would not have caused the emails to vanish, since they are contained on servers for from Lois Lerner that are backed up daily. This means that if emails are truly gone, they were deliberately and carefully deleted by somebody with detailed knowledge of the IRS email system AND the system of the external agencies that the emails were sent to.)
2.) The missing emails were between Lerner and external agencies such as Treasury, Dept. of Justice, the White House, etc.
(From this, we know that whatever was in the emails the Obamanites wanted covered up, wasn't just stuff that went on in IRS offices. Outside agencies were involved, such as the White House.)
3.) They vanished because "the dog ate my homework".
("Computer crash" is so clearly a bogus excuse, that it is clear that the person who deleted the emails, would much rather face the blizzard of accusations of lying and obstruction it is clearly guilty of here, than face the consequences of whatever is being covered up by this email deletion. Therefore the thing(s) being covered up, are much worse than some low-level person lying and obstructing an investigation.)
4.) Consider too, that the Articles of Impeachment against Richard Nixon, approved by the House committee in 1974, stated that he should be impeached for (a) trying to misuse the IRS to go after his political enemies; (b) lying to Congress's investigative committees, (c) withholding documents subpoenaed by Congress; (d) lying to the public to fool them into thinking a thorough investigation had been done; (e) interfering with investigations by Congressional committees.
So far, we have clear evidence that SOMEBODY did all these things. But all that evidence can be applied, so far, to people inside the IRS - there is no clear evidence that anybody outside the IRS was involved.
Until a bunch of emails between the suspects in the IRS, and people in outside agencies, was suddenly and deliberately deleted. And with an excuse that nobody would ever buy.
Once that happened, it became clear that somebody wanted the communications between the IRS and those outside agencies (Treas, DoJ, White House) covered up... and was willing to face the consequences of such blatant destruction of evidence.
Nixon was about to be impeached for doing exactly that. But as of today, we don't have evidence that Barack Obama ordered documents subpoenaed by Congress withheld. Or that Obama ordered his employees to lie about what they knew. Or that Obama ordered the emails deleted. Or that Obama ordered the IRS to hold up approvals for conservative groups.
We only know, that someone did.
Did the emails between Lois Lerner and groups such as the White House, contain clear evidence that the orders came from the White House? Emails that just got so carefully and thoroughly deleted?
Answer: We don't know what was in those emails. But clearly, somebody certainly didn't want us to know what was in them.
The game just shifted into the big leagues.
Until today, only lower offices of the IRS, were guilty. But now we know that somebody didn't want their communications with higher offices, revealed. And was willing to commit an obviously obstructive act, to keep them secret.
Some IRS IT flunky who decided on his own to delete the emails (which is the lowest level this can now be spun at), can't be impeached. The most that can happen to him, is a firing... no doubt with a very generous separation package, reward for services rendered, and a quiet job with an obscure Democrat consulting firm.
But such a blatant and obvious act of obstruction, sufficient to get Richard Nixon impeached, created a situation much LESS dangerous to the people involved... than the revealing of the contents of those emails, would have created.
That's why those emails were deliberately and thoroughly deleted, in an act that couldn't possibly have been an accident, or a crash of just one computer.
The game just shifted into the big leagues. And it's barely in the first inning. This has just begun to get interesting.
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