Dante Reawakened
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It is.Not my argument. Nice try.
You wrote:
I guess the same way a woman is said to forced to become a mother.
but okay
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It is.Not my argument. Nice try.
I guess the same way a woman is said to forced to become a mother.
So they can be killed?Not if they have the brain of an unborn fetus
It is.
You wrote:
but okay
Fertilization. Matter of textbook scientific fact. Argument over?The argument comes down to when life begins
Correct, it isn’t.and we all know that isn't declared in the Constitution, nor (as far as I know) in the US Code of Laws
No, that’s science’s role - it is the job of the government to define legal personhood. And a government that is just and follows principles of equality would not restrict legal personhood from any living human being.But is it the job of the government to establish an official Starting Time for human life?
Religion does not actually matter in this context. If your religion’s beliefs align with the reality that life begins at fertilization, great, easy. If not, oh well, you can have your beliefs, but reality and law should not respect your religion so much that we try to cater our laws to your delusion and magical thinking. Your practice of religion is your business alone until you try to use it to justify attacking others, as would be the case here.It is a moral, ethical, and religious question, and while some religions and schools of thought believe that life starts at the instant *snap* of conception, others believe that it does not begin until the actual birth occurs,
No, not really. Our government doesn’t protect everyone’s ability to choose for themselves if they want to steal, rape, enslave, murder, etc. Not all choices are valid, legal, and permissible. Some choices just determine criminal intent and premeditation.Our government is instead charged with the responsibility of protecting everyone's ability to choose for themselves.
Killed? What does kill mean?So they can be killed?
Living human being? What is considered a human being? Is a fetus considered a living human being?a government that is just and follows principles of equality would not restrict legal personhood from any living human being.
Killed? What does kill mean?
I guess in the same way taking a chicken's eggsis killing baby chicks. Can one kill an animal, a mamal that doesn't have a fully functioning brain and is not yet born?
I science, We speak of alien life. We speak of intelligent life. Are all fertilized eggs in a woman considered intelligent lifeFertilization. Matter of textbook scientific fact. Argument over?
Yes.
Is a woman abusing her body in any way that affects fetal development, guilty of manslaughter or child abuse?Yes.
When does the brain become “fully functioning”. And what is the standard you use?Hmm...
That would depend, wouldn’t it.Is a woman abusing her body in any way that affects fetal development, guilty of manslaughter or child abuse?
You are getting close to the arguments made by the Nazis in regards to those of the Jewish faith.I science, We speak of alien life. We speak of intelligent life. Are all fertilized eggs in a woman considered intelligent life
I personally do not have a standard that matters. Who am I?When does the brain become “fully functioning”. And what is the standard you use?
This isn’t English.I science, We speak of alien life. We speak of intelligent life. Are all fertilized eggs in a woman considered intelligent life
really? The Rightwing Nazis in Germany used scientific facts to go after people of the Jewish faith? I seem to remember they called Jewsihness a race too?You are getting close to the arguments made by the Nazis in regards to those of the Jewish faith.
relevant to what?This isn’t English.
It also isn’t relevant.
There are other mammals. Not all fetuses are human beings. Pigs in the fetal stage of life are pigs, not human beings.Living human being? What is considered a human being? Is a fetus considered a living human being?
Unborn kids have a mother and a father. There is no need to step in unless there is evidence of abuse.and legal person-hood? Babies and young children have legal guardians, including the state. Should the state monitor sex and step in as a guardian when an egg is fertilized?
Can living things be killed? Yes.Killed? What does kill mean?
I guess in the same way taking a chicken's eggsis killing baby chicks. Can one kill an animal, a mamal that doesn't have a fully functioning brain and is not yet born?
really? The Rightwing Nazis in Germany used scientific facts to go after people of the Jewish faith? I seem to remember they called Jewsihness a race too?