CDZ What are the Guesses as to when the Ds will Quit the Shut Down?

[Asclepias]

The key problem with the shutdown is the longer it lasts the more solid Trump's support in his base.

But deep pocket D campaign supporters are purportedly wondering what value they are getting for their money but hard numbers as to such irritation are notable by their absence

There are all sorts of squishy dates being thrown around. For example NBR had an implied date of 30 days before big Pharma turns on the Ds last night. (A guess about estimated lost gross revenues from the FDA drug approval shutdown an opinion that is worth its weight in gold.)

The big banks are not happy about Trump being distracted from the China trade deal by the Ds not funding the wall but when will Goldman Sachs or other leftist banks stop writing checks to the Ds? I haven't seen any numbers.

Then there are building and mortgage companies that can't get answers from the IRS.

And while the courts are likely to fast track a state of emergency Trump is just waiting out for D donors to turn on them. So what is your guess as to when the Ds will cave?

The key problem is that Drumpfs base is at most a third of the country. Everyone else either thinks Drumpf is wrong as two left shoes or he is retarded.

According to the latest RCP tally, 42.3% of the country approves of the job the President is doing and 49.9% of the country approves of what he is doing for the economy. That should be enough to get him reelected unless the Democrats can come up with a stronger candidate than those presently being considered.

You may want to use this site to track his rating. Right now its at 41%. Thats less than half. The 8 % that are not his base and approve now will change their minds shortly.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

There is only a slight difference between the two sites, my point stands. An enthusiastic base means a strong turnout, and that was the key to victory in 2016 despite the polls showing a Clinton lead.

You forget that the dems didnt have an enthusiastic base and Clinton still won the popular vote. This last midterm elections was nothing compared to whats going to happen in 2020. You guys better start working on 2024.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yes. He elected for many reasons obviously, including anti-Estabishment sentiment, a dislike of Hillary etc. However, in my opinion, his economic/trade policies (and renegotiation) and the border wall were his two signature promises.

If he keeps them, he will keep 99% of the voters he had in 2016, plus, add many more Independents, those who have walked away and those who simply were afraid to vote for Trump as they felt the economy might collapse (fear of unknown).

Trump is a known entity now. He is a businessman who decided to keep his promises, those are huge selling point for 2020. He can point at every politician and list their lies and ineffectiveness while touting that he kept his promises.

Of course, he can say again, "WE DID IT". Tough to overcome that momentum, he is doing what no politician had the balls to do. From the embassy in Jerusalem to a wall if he uses his Executive Powers.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The key problem with the shutdown is the longer it lasts the more solid Trump's support in his base.

But deep pocket D campaign supporters are purportedly wondering what value they are getting for their money but hard numbers as to such irritation are notable by their absence

There are all sorts of squishy dates being thrown around. For example NBR had an implied date of 30 days before big Pharma turns on the Ds last night. (A guess about estimated lost gross revenues from the FDA drug approval shutdown an opinion that is worth its weight in gold.)

The big banks are not happy about Trump being distracted from the China trade deal by the Ds not funding the wall but when will Goldman Sachs or other leftist banks stop writing checks to the Ds? I haven't seen any numbers.

Then there are building and mortgage companies that can't get answers from the IRS.

And while the courts are likely to fast track a state of emergency Trump is just waiting out for D donors to turn on them. So what is your guess as to when the Ds will cave?

The key problem is that Drumpfs base is at most a third of the country. Everyone else either thinks Drumpf is wrong as two left shoes or he is retarded.

According to the latest RCP tally, 42.3% of the country approves of the job the President is doing and 49.9% of the country approves of what he is doing for the economy. That should be enough to get him reelected unless the Democrats can come up with a stronger candidate than those presently being considered.

You may want to use this site to track his rating. Right now its at 41%. Thats less than half. The 8 % that are not his base and approve now will change their minds shortly.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

There is only a slight difference between the two sites, my point stands. An enthusiastic base means a strong turnout, and that was the key to victory in 2016 despite the polls showing a Clinton lead.

You forget that the dems didnt have an enthusiastic base and Clinton still won the popular vote. This last midterm elections was nothing compared to whats going to happen in 2020. You guys better start working on 2024.

lol Yeah, that's the same kind of warning you guys issued in 2016.

 

[Asclepias]

The key problem is that Drumpfs base is at most a third of the country. Everyone else either thinks Drumpf is wrong as two left shoes or he is retarded.

According to the latest RCP tally, 42.3% of the country approves of the job the President is doing and 49.9% of the country approves of what he is doing for the economy. That should be enough to get him reelected unless the Democrats can come up with a stronger candidate than those presently being considered.

You may want to use this site to track his rating. Right now its at 41%. Thats less than half. The 8 % that are not his base and approve now will change their minds shortly.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

There is only a slight difference between the two sites, my point stands. An enthusiastic base means a strong turnout, and that was the key to victory in 2016 despite the polls showing a Clinton lead.

You forget that the dems didnt have an enthusiastic base and Clinton still won the popular vote. This last midterm elections was nothing compared to whats going to happen in 2020. You guys better start working on 2024.

lol Yeah, that's the same kind of warning you guys issued in 2016.

Nope but it is the same warning the Dems issued in 2018.

 

[toomuchtime_]

According to the latest RCP tally, 42.3% of the country approves of the job the President is doing and 49.9% of the country approves of what he is doing for the economy. That should be enough to get him reelected unless the Democrats can come up with a stronger candidate than those presently being considered.

You may want to use this site to track his rating. Right now its at 41%. Thats less than half. The 8 % that are not his base and approve now will change their minds shortly.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

There is only a slight difference between the two sites, my point stands. An enthusiastic base means a strong turnout, and that was the key to victory in 2016 despite the polls showing a Clinton lead.

You forget that the dems didnt have an enthusiastic base and Clinton still won the popular vote. This last midterm elections was nothing compared to whats going to happen in 2020. You guys better start working on 2024.

lol Yeah, that's the same kind of warning you guys issued in 2016.

Nope but it is the same warning the Dems issued in 2018.

You seem confused. The President wasn't running in 2018.

 

[Asclepias]

You may want to use this site to track his rating. Right now its at 41%. Thats less than half. The 8 % that are not his base and approve now will change their minds shortly.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

There is only a slight difference between the two sites, my point stands. An enthusiastic base means a strong turnout, and that was the key to victory in 2016 despite the polls showing a Clinton lead.

You forget that the dems didnt have an enthusiastic base and Clinton still won the popular vote. This last midterm elections was nothing compared to whats going to happen in 2020. You guys better start working on 2024.

lol Yeah, that's the same kind of warning you guys issued in 2016.

Nope but it is the same warning the Dems issued in 2018.

You seem confused. The President wasn't running in 2018.

Talk about being confused. His fellow repubs were though.

 

[william the wie]

The Ds are imploding through ever growing tax base loss. The shutdown is speeding up the process Washington to Boston

 

[shockedcanadian]

The reason I think the Dems might want Trump to use his Executive Powers is it gives them an out to their base "we didn't give in to him".

It will hurt them politically though, especially because people will ask, "he is building his wall anyways, what did you get out of this"?

It would be nice if politics wasnt more important than the security of citizens, but here we are.

 

[sartre play]

The whole democratic process is going down the tubes, everything seems to be about party not about those they are elected to serve, not to happy about jumping from over blown crises that fade as interest recedes followed by some new hyped up crises.

 

[william the wie]

The reason I think the Dems might want Trump to use his Executive Powers is it gives them an out to their base "we didn't give in to him".

It will hurt them politically though, especially because people will ask, "he is building his wall anyways, what did you get out of this"?

It would be nice if politics wasnt more important than the security of citizens, but here we are.

The Ds are assuming, and perhaps correctly, that the Trump tax cuts are in the process of destroying their party.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The reason I think the Dems might want Trump to use his Executive Powers is it gives them an out to their base "we didn't give in to him".

It will hurt them politically though, especially because people will ask, "he is building his wall anyways, what did you get out of this"?

It would be nice if politics wasnt more important than the security of citizens, but here we are.

The Ds are assuming, and perhaps correctly, that the Trump tax cuts are in the process of destroying their party.

Huh?

 

[william the wie]

The reason I think the Dems might want Trump to use his Executive Powers is it gives them an out to their base "we didn't give in to him".

It will hurt them politically though, especially because people will ask, "he is building his wall anyways, what did you get out of this"?

It would be nice if politics wasnt more important than the security of citizens, but here we are.

The Ds are assuming, and perhaps correctly, that the Trump tax cuts are in the process of destroying their party.

Huh?

The Democrats have used the SALT (State and Local Taxes), tariffs, ICC/Railroad grants and even earlier canals to subsidize their party at the expense of the nation for going on 200 years (since 1824). Without SALT unlimited deductibility (the other subsidies were removed earlier) they have to get off the welfare rolls as a party. That is going to hurt bunches more and it has already hurt a lot. Think about the Ontario HBC and the Quebec based company of Adventurers merger making Quebec and Ontario the Canadian equivalent of the Democratic party. Not a one for one correspondence but it should give you a good image of the problem that the Ds face now.












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