Waiter in Paris shot dead because he was too slow...but, they have gun control in France...right?

[2aguy]

In gun controlled France, in gun controlled Paris......where the city is likely still under enhanced security because of the illegal use of illegal military weapons to murder 135 people a few years ago....a waiter was shot to death with an illegal handgun because he was too slow........

So...if a guy is evil enough to shoot a waiter over slow sandwich delivery....which French gun control law stopped him from shooting up a school, a mall, a theater....?

Paris waiter shot dead because 'too slow with sandwich'

 

[norwegen]

If we can shoot restaurant employees for slow service, McDonalds would be out of business.

 

[rightwinger]

French waiters are notoriously rude

Probably had it coming

 

[rightwinger]

The solution is obvious......Arm French Waiters

 

[Vagabond63]

France is the 12th most heavily civillian armed country in the world, they just make sure the people who own the guns aren't RWNJs.

 

[2aguy]

France is the 12th most heavily civillian armed country in the world, they just make sure the people who own the guns aren't RWNJs.

You mean like the muslims who murdered 135 people at the rock concert....with illegal, completely banned, fully automatic, military rifles? You mean like them...or the cartoonists murdered with again, fully automatic, completely banned, military rifles? You mean like those guys?

 

[Vagabond63]

France is the 12th most heavily civillian armed country in the world, they just make sure the people who own the guns aren't RWNJs.

You mean like the muslims who murdered 135 people at the rock concert....with illegal, completely banned, fully automatic, military rifles? You mean like them...or the cartoonists murdered with again, fully automatic, completely banned, military rifles? You mean like those guys?

Oh, so now you want to bring in well planned terrorist attacks? What makes you think an armed population would have stopped those attacks? The USA has arguably the most advanced and numerous air defnce system on the planet, but that didn't do you much good on 9/11 did it?

 

[2aguy]

France is the 12th most heavily civillian armed country in the world, they just make sure the people who own the guns aren't RWNJs.

You mean like the muslims who murdered 135 people at the rock concert....with illegal, completely banned, fully automatic, military rifles? You mean like them...or the cartoonists murdered with again, fully automatic, completely banned, military rifles? You mean like those guys?

Oh, so now you want to bring in well planned terrorist attacks? What makes you think an armed population would have stopped those attacks? The USA has arguably the most advanced and numerous air defnce system on the planet, but that didn't do you much good on 9/11 did it?

Because here.....armed citizens in the middle of mass public shootings have a 94% success rate ......and even against a well planned military strike....like in Paris....where fully automatic military weapons are banned, and illegal...yet terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists still got them........ when you are shooting back at the killers, they have to take cover...you save lives......

And at a minimum...if you have a gun....and are trying to escape from the area, if you run into one of the shooters....your chances of making it out of the area and to safety increase by about 1000%......as well as any people you might be leading away from the attack......you understand that...right?

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.