USMB Race Politics Poll

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by Whyte.Devyl, Aug 13, 2009.

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Which statement(s) holds the most truth to you?

Poll closed Sep 12, 2009.
  1. A

    50.0%
  2. B

    58.3%
  3. C

    8.3%
  4. D

    16.7%
  5. E

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. F

    0 vote(s)
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  1. Whyte.Devyl
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    Which statement(s) holds the most truth to you?
    This is an effort to provide a graduated scale of possible beliefs regarding the word "race". The scale measures the degree of public/government involvement utilizing 'race' as a factor.

    More than one choice may be made.

    A
    'Race' regardless of how physically identifiable, has absolutely no significant influence on an individual. There is no inherent superiority/inferiority of 'races' as individuals within each 'race' all share the same human potential.
    Absolutely oppose 'race' as a factor in any public agenda, because 'race' represents a group identity, which contradicts individualism.
    Examples: Oppose 'race'-based laws pertaining to segregation, desegregation, affirmative action, so-called "hate" crimes. Oppose any public documentation of 'race'.
    Possible labels: Libertarian

    B
    'Race' is a logical or even taxonomical classification of humans sharing similar evolutionary collections of inheritable, physical traits. These surface distinctions have no bering of any sort regarding inherent superiority/inferiority, however some recognition is given to group identity.
    Some public documentation should pertain to 'race', though limited only to informational purposes.
    Examples: Support 'race'-based classifications in public Census documents, law enforcement statistics, and medical trends.
    Possible labels: Realist

    C
    'Race' exists as a hierarchy of inherent, inheritable superior/inferior abilities at different tasks. Believe that there are certain roles for certain 'races' to play within any given society, though each different 'race' has a place.
    'Race'-based public agendas are acceptable if they are somehow justified for the good of the social elite.
    Examples: Support media/educationally based 'racial' distinctions and group identity politics.
    Possible labels: Capitalist, Racialist, Elitist

    D
    'Race' exists paradoxically as a "social construct", with certain 'races' as historically or culturally superior/inferior. Physical traits clearly observable to all are merely figments of imagination, yet these same figments of imagination should be deciding factors in public institutions.
    Examples: Strongly oppose any private discrimination of any sort while strongly supporting public 'race'-based discrimination in redistribution or quota systems.
    Possible labels: Progressive, Marxist, Communist

    E
    All 'races' on this planet should be one someday.
    Believe in the undisputable superiority or eventuality of a global amalgamated 'race'.
    Examples: Support genocide as a solution to 'race'-relations. Strongly support forced or coerced miscegenation through every available channel.
    Possible labels: Assimilation Theorist, (mixed-'race') Supremacist

    F
    There should only be one 'race' on this planet and it should be (insert 'race' here).
    Believe in the undisputable superiority of (insert 'race' here).
    Believe in violent means to ensure that only (insert 'race' here) exists on this planet.
    Examples: Support genocide as a solution to 'race'-relations. Strongly support the extermination of other 'races' through every available channel.
    Possible labels: Fascist, (insert 'race' here) Supremacist
     
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    Useful contemporary definitions.


    Racist
    Genocide
    Genocide - United Nations
     
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    My own choice is somewhere between "A" and "B".

    I recognize that there are indeed 'races' of people, and that these 'races' were formed by evolution. IMHO different 'races' are neccesary for the survival of the entire human species, in other words true 'racial' diversity is actually a good thing.

    I also believe that 'racial' traits have little impact save for personal preferences. While I see no harm in publically documenting 'racial' differences, I do not see any overwhelming need for it either. While a private person is entitled to their own preferences, publically 'race' should never be an issue.
     
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    OT -
    Is there any way I could get a mod to kill the poll posted yesterday?
     
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    Bump
     
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    bump, bump

    Just few more times.
    :)
     
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    I'd pick B but I'm just not sure about the data collection bit. I can see benefits to keeping the data...but at the same time it makes me a bit uncomfortable, especially the law enforcement statistics....if only because people are always using that to prove a false, IMO, assumption.
     
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    Race is really nothing more than color breeds. Sickle cell disease for instance can be an African or a Mediterranean thing. We ALL contain the DNA that makes any of the colors and physical features possible of any race. Just like a TB bay mare can throw an overo if the right pairing happens, and it has happened. We all are all the same stuff.
     
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    There is only one race: Human.

    The distinctions we've referred to as "race" is really about ethnicity.
     
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    Interesting poll.

    I went with "C". Not perfect, but closer than the others.

    Race is a real, verifiable and quantifiable genetic quantity. You can see race on the street and in the microscope. It isn't any "social construct."

    Races differ enough in their inherent capabilities that a multiracial society is bound to be distorted by the effects.

    Each race should have the right to direct its own group destiny.
     

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