US ill with powerful mutant strain of ignorance anti-rationalism anti-intellectualism

[Midnight Marauder]

Is this why you Statists are for larger Government? To save us from ourselves?

In the past the hard left wouldn't openly utter the narrative, couldn't dare be honest. It is this: The unwashed hordes, the hoi polloi, are too uneducated, too ignorant, to make decisions for themselves. The mission of academia for at least a generation now, is to quash independent thought, in the guise of actually teaching it. I see the results of this every day in my interactions with university students who are so well conditioned and programmed, they don't really even know for sure what independent thought really is.

They have this "question everything" mentality, but will try to savage you if you tell them "Yes, and start with your professors!" The very idea that one would dare question the motives of THAT leadership is anathema to them.

They have a Pavlovian conditioning that is frightening, but also relatively easy to break, given a little time and a few good examples.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Global Warming...yes, I believe!

Fucking morons

Newsweek on the cooling world

That article is from 1975.

Science has changed so much over that time?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Newsweek on the cooling world

That article is from 1975.

Science has changed so much over that time?

Went right over his head didn't it?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Americans seem relatively healthy. Seriousy, where would we be if the GOP hadn't gained the majority in congress last November? Democrats wouldn't have been talking about ways to cut deficit spending. They would have spent the US into 3rd world status. When democrats had total control of government the president hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to his "green jobs" board. What was he thinking? Obama refered to the US Chamber of Commerce as a sinister tool of the GOP. How is the stimulous working? We spent a trillion dollars to try to get democrats elected and the unemployment rate went up.

The right wing held millions of unemployed hostage threatening to cut off their benefits unless Obama turned another trillion over to the wealthiest 1% of Americans. Is that how Republicans "saved money"?

Bush and the Republicans held both houses and the presidency for 6 straight years. Name a single success, besides the fact they had both houses and the presidency.

Obama is a failure for not cleaning up what Republicans did to this country fast enough.

But seriously, a smart black man? The right winger will never accept him for those two reasons alone.

Are you one of the Intellectuals we're supposed to fear?

 

[Truthmatters]

Any time a political faction comes along and tells you that smart people are evil and need to be pushed out of our teaching system to make room for ....... well........ people who are not smart but agree with that poltical faction you can bet you are being manipulated into accepting something in the political realm that is not in your self interests.


"dont listen to thoise people over there that have all this edumacation, they are just pointy headed liberals"


It is perpitrated by the people who KNOW the experts are right but they need people to ignore the facts so they can have their way to some pile of money.


How anyone can fall for such blatent stupidity is beyond the pale.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Any time a political faction comes along and tells you that smart people are evil and need to be pushed out of our teaching system to make room for ....... well........ people who are not smart but agree with that poltical faction you can bet you are being manipulated into accepting something in the political realm that is not in your self interests.


"dont listen to thoise people over there that have all this edumacation, they are just pointy headed liberals"


It is perpitrated by the people who KNOW the experts are right but they need people to ignore the facts so they can have their way to some pile of money.


How anyone can fall for such blatent stupidity is beyond the pale.

Speaking of Anti-Intellectualism, here's TM!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Any time a political faction comes along and tells you that smart people are evil and need to be pushed out of our teaching system to make room for ....... well........ people who are not smart but agree with that poltical faction you can bet you are being manipulated into accepting something in the political realm that is not in your self interests.


" dont listen to thoise people over there that have all this edumacation, they are just pointy headed liberals"


It is perpitrated by the people who KNOW the experts are right but they need people to ignore the facts so they can have their way to some pile of money.


How anyone can fall for such blatent stupidity is beyond the pale.

Classic examples of a straw man argument and Freudian projection, all in one post!

Coupled with TOTAL illiteracy as in bold above, and complete unawareness of irony!

You suppose to lecture folks in intellectualism, when you can't even fucking SPELL or present a rational, cognizant or intelligent argument?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Truthmatters, the useful idiot of the USMB. Capable of making even the rdeans and the Flaylos look brilliant and does so daily!

 

[The T]

Americans seem relatively healthy. Seriousy, where would we be if the GOP hadn't gained the majority in congress last November? Democrats wouldn't have been talking about ways to cut deficit spending. They would have spent the US into 3rd world status. When democrats had total control of government the president hired a communist former leader of an arson and looting rampage to his "green jobs" board. What was he thinking? Obama refered to the US Chamber of Commerce as a sinister tool of the GOP. How is the stimulous working? We spent a trillion dollars to try to get democrats elected and the unemployment rate went up.

The right wing held millions of unemployed hostage threatening to cut off their benefits unless Obama turned another trillion over to the wealthiest 1% of Americans. Is that how Republicans "saved money"?

Bush and the Republicans held both houses and the presidency for 6 straight years. Name a single success, besides the fact they had both houses and the presidency.

Obama is a failure for not cleaning up what Republicans did to this country fast enough.

But seriously, a smart black man? The right winger will never accept him for those two reasons alone.

Are you one of the Intellectuals we're supposed to fear?

He would love to think that he has that kind of sway, wouldn't he? Deany is the butt of many jokes that pose as intellectual posters.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Any time a political faction comes along and tells you that smart people are evil and need to be pushed out of our teaching system to make room for ....... well........ people who are not smart but agree with that poltical faction you can bet you are being manipulated into accepting something in the political realm that is not in your self interests.


"dont listen to thoise people over there that have all this edumacation, they are just pointy headed liberals"


It is perpitrated by the people who KNOW the experts are right but they need people to ignore the facts so they can have their way to some pile of money.


How anyone can fall for such blatent stupidity is beyond the pale.

Are you one of these "smart people"?

 

[rdean]

newsweek on the cooling world

that article is from 1975.

so?

Unlike right wingers, scientists are always "learning". They write books, not study just one.

 

[Truthmatters]

when you have to rewrite history, spew hate on education in all manner of ways, make teachers into hated figures, degrade the efforts of science and insult anyone who wishes to be compassionate to others its a big clue that you support a bankrupt set of ideas.

Why not just get new ideas that actually work for human beings.

 

[California Girl]

that article is from 1975.

so?

Unlike right wingers, scientists are always "learning". They write books, not study just one.

You're adorably dumb, seriously. 94% of your posts are absolute bullshit.

 

[Truthmatters]

Ah the wisdom of the right.

 

[Oddball]

when you have to rewrite history, spew hate on education in all manner of ways, make teachers into hated figures, degrade the efforts of science and insult anyone who wishes to be compassionate to others its a big clue that you support a bankrupt set of ideas.

Why not just get new ideas that actually work for human beings.

Really giving it your all to prove the OP is merely projecting, aren't ya?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

that article is from 1975.

so?

Unlike right wingers, scientists are always "learning". They write books, not study just one.

I learned that the Dem Party was taken over by EnviroMarxists since 1975.

What changed in the "science"?

I thought we knew since 1850 that additional wisps of atmospheric CO2 would melt the ice caps, spawn killer tornadoes, create Cat 5 hurricanes, kill all the sea coral?

What changed?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

when you have to rewrite history, spew hate on education in all manner of ways, make teachers into hated figures, degrade the efforts of science and insult anyone who wishes to be compassionate to others its a big clue that you support a bankrupt set of ideas.

Why not just get new ideas that actually work for human beings.

Though Progressives thrive on the uneducated masses it has spawned the US Federal Department of Education has been a failure and needs to be dismantled.

 

[rdean]

so?

Unlike right wingers, scientists are always "learning". They write books, not study just one.

I learned that the Dem Party was taken over by EnviroMarxists since 1975.

What changed in the "science"?

I thought we knew since 1850 that additional wisps of atmospheric CO2 would melt the ice caps, spawn killer tornadoes, create Cat 5 hurricanes, kill all the sea coral?

What changed?

Understanding brought about by careful study and improvements in technology.

I know it's difficult. The right wing not fond of study, or learning. Someone wrote a book thousands of years ago and they can't believe anything in it could be wrong or out of date. If a mind can't be changed in thousands of years, how likely that it can be changed in 36?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The right’s anathema to objective evidence and ‘intellectualism’ is predicated on the fact that such evidence often conflicts with conservative dogma.

For example, consider Michele Bachmann’s 2006 statement that the Constitutional concept of separation of church and State is a ‘myth’:

Separation of church and state

While many have challenged that the group causes schools to run afoul of the separation of church and state, both Bachmann and YCRBYCH deny that the constitutional prohibition exists.

In fact, Bachmann urges people to give money to the organization for the stated purpose of bringing Christ into public schools.

“[Public schools] are teaching children that there is separation of church and state, and I am here to tell you that is a myth. That’s not true,” Bachmann said at the group’s 2006 fundraiser in Minneapolis. “And they explain to children in the public school system what a myth that is. And that’s what I love about this ministry … We want kids to come to the truth and that’s why this ministry is so absolutely vital. We need them in every public school classroom across the state to tell young people, ‘You Can Run But You Cannot Hide.’”

Bachmann to raise funds for controversial Christian punk ministry | Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media.

In McCollum v. Board of Education, School District 71 (1948), however, the Supreme Court clearly indicates this is a fundamental Constitutional doctrine:

Separation means separation, not something less. Jefferson's metaphor in describing the relation between Church and State speaks of a 'wall of separation,' not of a fine line easily overstepped.

FindLaw | Cases and Codes

Since decisions by the Supreme Court become part of Constitutional case law, and the case law becomes part of the Constitution, separation of church and State is indeed part of the Constitution, it is not a ‘myth’ as Ms. Bachmann would have us believe.

Needless to say this plays well to many on the right, mostly ignorant of the Constitution and facts of Constitutional case law. And as Bachmann is a trained attorney, she should be aware of McCollum, indicating she is willfully ignorant.

The TPM seems the epicenter for willful ignorance and anti-intellectualism, their bleating about ‘getting back’ to the Constitution makes no sense whatsoever, as if over 200 years of Supreme Court rulings and cumulative case law don’t exist. Indeed, we’ve never ‘left’ the Constitution.

The TPM and others on the right are certainly entitled to disagree with given rulings, but that does not give them license to ignore the law of the land or disseminate falsehoods about the meaning of the Founding Document.

 

[rdean]

I think the right has a problem with intellectual leadership. They see their leadership in terms of "rigid dogma". The left has scientists. Scientists are always learning and exploring and gathering new data which causes them to alter their viewpoint. The right sees this as being unable to "make up your mind".