US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah

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    first off consider the sources used in the article then read this line "Ever since the assault, which went unreported by any Western journalists," now i don't know about you but i'm pretty sure the assulat on fallujah was reported on the news live if i remember right. i also seem to remember some of the same news sites reported in this article aslo said that the iraiqs unleashed giant spiders that ate us troops whole. i'll try to find that load.


    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article325560.ece

    US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah
    By Peter Popham
    Published: 08 November 2005

    Powerful new evidence emerged yesterday that the United States dropped massive quantities of white phosphorus on the Iraqi city of Fallujah during the attack on the city in November 2004, killing insurgents and civilians with the appalling burns that are the signature of this weapon.

    Ever since the assault, which went unreported by any Western journalists, rumours have swirled that the Americans used chemical weapons on the city.

    On 10 November last year, the Islam Online website wrote: "US troops are reportedly using chemical weapons and poisonous gas in its large-scale offensive on the Iraqi resistance bastion of Fallujah, a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurds in 1988."

    The website quoted insurgent sources as saying: "The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally banned chemical weapons."

    In December the US government formally denied the reports, describing them as "widespread myths". "Some news accounts have claimed that US forces have used 'outlawed' phosphorus shells in Fallujah," the USinfo website said. "Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. US forces have used them very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination purposes.

    "They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters."

    But now new information has surfaced, including hideous photographs and videos and interviews with American soldiers who took part in the Fallujah attack, which provides graphic proof that phosphorus shells were widely deployed in the city as a weapon.

    In a documentary to be broadcast by RAI, the Italian state broadcaster, this morning, a former American soldier who fought at Fallujah says: "I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete.

    "Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh all the way down to the bone ... I saw the burned bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes and forms a cloud. Anyone within a radius of 150 metres is done for."

    Photographs on the website of RaiTG24, the broadcaster's 24-hours news channel, www.rainews24.it, show exactly what the former soldier means. Provided by the Studies Centre of Human Rights in Fallujah, dozens of high-quality, colour close-ups show bodies of Fallujah residents, some still in their beds, whose clothes remain largely intact but whose skin has been dissolved or caramelised or turned the consistency of leather by the shells.

    A biologist in Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq, interviewed for the film, says: "A rain of fire fell on the city, the people struck by this multi-coloured substance started to burn, we found people dead with strange wounds, the bodies burned but the clothes intact."

    The documentary, entitled Fallujah: the Hidden Massacre, also provides what it claims is clinching evidence that incendiary bombs known as Mark 77, a new, improved form of napalm, was used in the attack on Fallujah, in breach of the UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1980, which only allows its use against military targets.

    Meanwhile, five US soldiers from the elite 75th Ranger Regiment have been charged with kicking and punching detainees in Iraq.

    The news came as a suicide car bomber killed four American soldiers at a checkpoint south of Baghdad yesterday.
     
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    Right you are. There were embeds with Falluja strikes. History channel just this past weekend had the Falluja chronicles with nearly a scene by scene replay.
     
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    one should not spread ridicilous propaganda.
     
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    just posting the bullshit the foriegn media is throwing out there. just letting everyone know what we are up againest in the pr war that and the fact italian state run media is running with this story.
     
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    Berlusconi is losing his touch or the lack of independence of the Italian
    media has been greatly overstated.
     
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    i just find it a tad bit odd that soon after a former italian intel agent gets fingered for forging iraq/nuke docs they deciede to run this
     
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    Berlusconi is a trick pony, and not true conservative in the American
    sense. His tv empire propagates sleaze, well most of you would be shocked.

    Since the kidnapping of some Italian/Lebanese? guys by Us agents from
    Italy he has lost his enthusiasm for Bush. (imo)

    Maybe he intentionally plays the anti American card to gain votes
    from the leftist Italians. Many critisize the French on this board
    for their military performance. As a German the Italian stand
    out as the worst military ever closely followed by the Netherlands.

    Since the days of ancient Rome all the guys who had the will to fight
    either died or left to America. (applicable to most of Western Europe)

    My advice never count on Italy. Yeah I took out a minute of my life
    to hate on them. But hey they cost us Moscow. :D
     
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    White phosphorus is not a chemical weapon.
     
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    Ooh! But it's a 'chemical!' AND the soldiers had 'weapons'...see?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    So how does one get their skin melted from WP yet their clothes remain intact???? Sounds like propaganda to me.
     

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