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Obamacare was not a conservative idea, it was designed by some fucked up Mormon out of Massachusetts that made Obamacare model. It is a fucked up idea, anyone that thinks everyone should be in favor of it is a fucked up piece of shit. LolWhy don't you go ahead a attach the link to the Rep think tank which wrote Obamacare?
I really don't want the thread to go that route (arguing about the ACA)....but here's an excerpt from an Obama speech......
It’s because the Affordable Care Act pretty much was their plan before I adopted it — based on conservative, market-based principles developed by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Republicans in Congress, and deployed by a guy named Mitt Romney in Massachusetts to great effect. If they want to take credit for this law, they can. I’m happy to share it.
Obama Drops The Hammer On Republicans By Reminding Them Obamacare Was Their Idea
I guess having a candidate with a vagina wasn't as important as you thought.
WOW....that could then open up the speculation that you've been voting for men because you liked their penises.
Why don't you go ahead a attach the link to the Rep think tank which wrote Obamacare?
I really don't want the thread to go that route (arguing about the ACA)....but here's an excerpt from an Obama speech......
It’s because the Affordable Care Act pretty much was their plan before I adopted it — based on conservative, market-based principles developed by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Republicans in Congress, and deployed by a guy named Mitt Romney in Massachusetts to great effect. If they want to take credit for this law, they can. I’m happy to share it.
Obama Drops The Hammer On Republicans By Reminding Them Obamacare Was Their Idea
This question now is what will be learned from this.Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
This question now is what will be learned from this.
That demagoguery DOES work.
If you don't want the thread to go that way, don't throw the bait
Actually, if you were to go back to post #5, it was Peachy who threw out the bait....not I....
Well, he won because he got former union dems to vote for him.I'm including myself in this forum (and other venues) as one who derided and condescended Trump acolytes and right wingers in general.
Many of us called these folks, old, white, southern red-necked types, uneducated, narrow-minded, racists, xenophobic, misogynists, regressive.....and downright stupid American voters who claimed that they only lost in the past because us.....democrats....cheat at the polls by having illegals and corpses vote along with us.
These labels and derisive name-calling obviously angered these folks, and they made damn sure to come out and vote by the millions for someone like Trump whom many of them (not all, obviously) hated LESS than they hated Hillary Clinton.
Comey's letter certainly had its debilitating (and expected) impact on Clinton, but the thinly-veiled allegation by Comey is far from the main factor why many just did not vote for her (just heard a report that in some Wisconsin county, 45,000 people skipped the presidential slots, and Trump won by a mere 27,000 votes.)
Yes, for us democrats....as Pogo famously stated......we met the enemy and it was indeed us. Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
I'm including myself in this forum (and other venues) as one who derided and condescended Trump acolytes and right wingers in general.
Many of us called these folks, old, white, southern red-necked types, uneducated, narrow-minded, racists, xenophobic, misogynists, regressive.....and downright stupid American voters who claimed that they only lost in the past because us.....democrats....cheat at the polls by having illegals and corpses vote along with us.
These labels and derisive name-calling obviously angered these folks, and they made damn sure to come out and vote by the millions for someone like Trump whom many of them (not all, obviously) hated LESS than they hated Hillary Clinton.
Comey's letter certainly had its debilitating (and expected) impact on Clinton, but the thinly-veiled allegation by Comey is far from the main factor why many just did not vote for her (just heard a report that in some Wisconsin county, 45,000 people skipped the presidential slots, and Trump won by a mere 27,000 votes.)
Yes, for us democrats....as Pogo famously stated......we met the enemy and it was indeed us. Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
I'm including myself in this forum (and other venues) as one who derided and condescended Trump acolytes and right wingers in general.
Many of us called these folks, old, white, southern red-necked types, uneducated, narrow-minded, racists, xenophobic, misogynists, regressive.....and downright stupid American voters who claimed that they only lost in the past because us.....democrats....cheat at the polls by having illegals and corpses vote along with us.
These labels and derision name-calling obviously angered these folks, and they made damn sure to come out and vote by the millions for someone like Trump whom many of them (not all, obviously) hated LESS than they hated Hillary Clinton.
Comey's letter certainly had its debilitating (and expected) impact on Clinton, but the thinly-veiled allegation by Comey is far from the main factor why many just did not vote for her (just heard a report that in some Wisconsin county, 45,000 people skipped the presidential slots, and Trump won by a mere 27,000 votes.)
Yes, for us democrats....as Pogo famously stated......we met the enemy and it was indeed us. Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
Clinton lost the "Blue Wall" in the Rust Belt, Nat...that's what cost her the election! Blue collar, union people in places like Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio who normally vote Democratic turned their backs on Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. They no longer bought the narrative that the Democrats were "their" party!
I'm including myself in this forum (and other venues) as one who derided and condescended Trump acolytes and right wingers in general.
Many of us called these folks, old, white, southern red-necked types, uneducated, narrow-minded, racists, xenophobic, misogynists, regressive.....and downright stupid American voters who claimed that they only lost in the past because us.....democrats....cheat at the polls by having illegals and corpses vote along with us.
These labels and derisive name-calling obviously angered these folks, and they made damn sure to come out and vote by the millions for someone like Trump whom many of them (not all, obviously) hated LESS than they hated Hillary Clinton.
Comey's letter certainly had its debilitating (and expected) impact on Clinton, but the thinly-veiled allegation by Comey is far from the main factor why many just did not vote for her (just heard a report that in some Wisconsin county, 45,000 people skipped the presidential slots, and Trump won by a mere 27,000 votes.)
Yes, for us democrats....as Pogo famously stated......we met the enemy and it was indeed us. Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
Obviously it doesn't, Nat because that's pretty much what Hillary ran on! Here in Florida all we saw from the Clinton camp were ads attacking Trump as being "dangerous". That was her plan and it didn't resonate with the electorate. They voted for Trump because they didn't buy Clinton's demagoguery.
Not to mention the fact that when the Dems had all three branches they passed that very harmful Health Care bill against the majority of the people with only their party voting for it.
Are you referring to the ACA mostly written by a republican think tank and one that Trump is now claiming to adopt for the most part?
And what difference does it make that they supported a mandate and pools? Who gives a fuck what one conservative group once proposed that never went anywhere and didn't even come up for a vote in Congress because most Republicans opposed it?
THAT might be the most accurate, most astute, truthful thing you ever said, and I could not agree more. People were tired of being attacked, berated, name-called, etc...and, as you said, they came out en masse to make Hillary / Liberals pay.I'm including myself in this forum (and other venues) as one who derided and condescended Trump acolytes and right wingers in general.
Many of us called these folks, old, white, southern red-necked types, uneducated, narrow-minded, racists, xenophobic, misogynists, regressive.....and downright stupid American voters who claimed that they only lost in the past because us.....democrats....cheat at the polls by having illegals and corpses vote along with us.
These labels and derisive name-calling obviously angered these folks, and they made damn sure to come out and vote by the millions for someone like Trump whom many of them (not all, obviously) hated LESS than they hated Hillary Clinton.
Comey's letter certainly had its debilitating (and expected) impact on Clinton, but the thinly-veiled allegation by Comey is far from the main factor why many just did not vote for her (just heard a report that in some Wisconsin county, 45,000 people skipped the presidential slots, and Trump won by a mere 27,000 votes.)
Yes, for us democrats....as Pogo famously stated......we met the enemy and it was indeed us. Clinton had too much baggage on her shoulders AND, our labeling right wingers uneducated hicks has made us pay the heavy price.
