U.S. worries Russia returning to its past

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    more ... U.S. worries Russia returning to its past - The White House - MSNBC.com
     
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    Your mean the press says the U.S. is worrying. In fact, we're not. Russia is not doing anything but screwing up at the moment. This will only strengthen the NATO alliances against them.
     
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    Some elements of the USA's elite could not be happier than Russia is going to play the bad boy, again.

    Their behavior is going to give them the excuse to get the American people to buy a lot of advanced weapons.
     
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    There are indeed people who would profit from having a serious (as opposed to some terroist nutjobs without significant military or economic potential) enemy, these people are linked to the current US gouverment (not only the current one), a gouverment which certainly had a hand in provoking Russia during the last 8 years. I am not partisan here, Clinton certainly provoked them too, he merely was more diplomatic about it. And he had a bigger stick while doing it.

    Sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory, but amongst other things, McCain will likely gain more votes if Russia continues to be perceived as aggressive.

    Provocant question:
    Did the US send S-Vili into his doom to make a republican election more likely?
    I do not buy that they were "uninformed", between the American advisors, spyplanes, frequent visists etc, they likely knew what was going to happen.
    If the Russians had enough intel to be able to react as quick as they did, the US should have had that, and very likely more (easier to spy on allies) too.

    The whole thing goes 2 ways, having McCain, whom Russians already perceive as a PTSD nutcase, as president of the USA would also unite the Russian people behind its current leadership.

    Nothing unites countries better than a big, dangerous foreign enemy.

    Its easily possible that funny conflict it Transnistria or wherever will pop whenever tensions die down or a less hawkish gouverment (on both sides) has a shot of taking power.
     
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    Everyone in the U.S. is grossly exaggerating the significance of the situation in Georgia. This is primarily caused by a huge anti-Russia sentiment that's promoted by the military industrial complex for one simple reason: Russia is the enemy that they love to have.

    All this war is really about is the two separatist regions, peopled primarily by Russians, who want to be part of Russia. There was a 1992 treaty that made them autonomous and everyone was at peace.

    Then Georgia launched a major military, and wholly idiotic attack against South Ossetia that killed many Russians.

    Russia has the right and responsibility to defend the lives of their people. That is all there is to it. We have done the same many times.

    Imagine if Argentina (or whatever country), started killing Americans? We'd invade in a heartbeat.

    There's nothing more to it than that, except for the sabre rattling of a bunch of American facist nationalists who want to bring back the cold war because it puts a buck in their pocket - wit John McCain in the lead.
     
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    Yeah, that's what they said about Stalin, too.
    And Hitler.
    And Pol Pot.

    Fucking morons never learn.
     
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    No one ever said those things about Stalin, Hitler or Pot Pol. Who are you kidding?
     

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