U.S. expected to sanction IDF unit for human rights violations in occupied West Bank

[ESay]

War with whom?

Jewish-Arab war, obviously.

 

[Lisa558]

Jewish-Arab war, obviously.

Huh? The Arabs attacked the innocent Jews on October 7th. There’s already a war.

 

[ESay]

Huh? The Arabs attacked the innocent Jews on October 7th. There’s already a war.

This war doesn’t end since Israel's creation.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Jewish-Arab war, obviously.

No Arab nation is going to take up arms against Israel over al Aqsa, and although for over 100 years Arab leaders could reliably stir up riots by claiming the Jews are attacking al Aqsa, that no longer seems to be true, so there is no possibility of war over al Aqsa. Perhaps by orthodoxy you meant to say a right wing government is incompatible with democracy.

 

[Lisa558]

This war doesn’t end since Israel's creation.

Why not? The Palestinians were offered their own land, a number of times - and they always refused. If there’s ever to be peace, they’ll have to agree to live peacefully next to Israel.

Their “show” on October 7th shows us they’re a long way from that. Or, as Golda Meir said, “there will be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews.”

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This is fuckwad Biden's affirmative action war. He's promoting some sort of warfare equity.

 

[toomuchtime_]

This war doesn’t end since Israel's creation.

It is ending. We just saw Jordan, Saudi Arabia and UAE help defend Israel against the Iranian attack.

 

[ESay]

No Arab nation is going to take up arms against Israel over al Aqsa, and although for over 100 years Arab leaders could reliably stir up riots by claiming the Jews are attacking al Aqsa, that no longer seems to be true, so there is no possibility of war over al Aqsa. Perhaps by orthodoxy you meant to say a right wing government is incompatible with democracy.

Not sure why this war is impossible. Because the Jews won't get it started, or because the Arabs won't respond? If the hope is on the latter, then I wouldn't bet too much on that.

Depends on what a right wing government means for you.

 

[Lisa558]

Not sure why this war is impossible. Because the Jews won't get it started, or because the Arabs won't respond? If the hope is on the latter, then I wouldn't bet too much on that.

Depends on what a right wing government means for you.

Jews don’t start wars. Their actions are in response to an act of war, or an imminent act of war.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Not sure why this war is impossible. Because the Jews won't get it started, or because the Arabs won't respond? If the hope is on the latter, then I wouldn't bet too much on that.

Depends on what a right wing government means for you.

No one is interested in going to war over al Aqsa.

 

[ESay]

Why not? The Palestinians were offered their own land, a number of times - and they always refused. If there’s ever to be peace, they’ll have to agree to live peacefully next to Israel.

Their “show” on October 7th shows us they’re a long way from that. Or, as Golda Meir said, “there will be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Jews.”

The problem is the Arabs didn't agree to divide Palestine in the first turn. And they refused any peace solutions proposed, because that would have meant they were going to give up 'their' land.

 

[ESay]

It is ending. We just saw Jordan, Saudi Arabia and UAE help defend Israel against the Iranian attack.

Yes. But everyone of them wants to see independent Palestinian state.

 

[ESay]

No one is interested in going to war over al Aqsa.

I really hope so.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes. But everyone of them wants to see independent Palestinian state.

The Palestinians turned down Israel’s offers.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yes. But everyone of them wants to see independent Palestinian state.

Perhaps, but obviously, none of them wants to go to war with Israel over the Palestinians.

 

[ESay]

Jews don’t start wars. Their actions are in response to an act of war, or an imminent act of war.

If you want to take some land that your neighbor considers as 'his', the war is imminent.

 

[Lisa558]

The problem is the Arabs didn't agree to divide Palestine in the first turn. And they refused any peace solutions proposed, because that would have meant they were going to give up 'their' land.

Most of people who owned the land were paid for it. What about the 850,000 Jews whom the Arabs drove out of every other MidEast country? The Arabs took their land, property, and assets. Not a single Jew got a single penny.

How come you don’t care about THEM?

 

[ESay]

The Palestinians turned down Israel’s offers.

Of course, they consider all land as theirs. Why should they divide it between somebody else?

 

[ESay]

Perhaps, but obviously, none of them wants to go to war with Israel over the Palestinians.

They don't need to. There are others who will do that job.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The problem is the Arabs didn't agree to divide Palestine in the first turn. And they refused any peace solutions proposed, because that would have meant they were going to give up 'their' land.

They have pretty much come to their senses since.