Two Patriot Missile Systems Destroyed...

[1srelluc]

 

[22lcidw]

Standard part of conflict now especially when dealing with Mericans

Send up Drones costing a few dollars and get Mericans to fire defense rockets and missiles costing millions .

I thought Ukeys had completely run out of seviceable Patriots -- -- all destroyed or awaiting replacement parts .
But Patriots , Himars , Bradleys and Abrams -- all second class junk to the Russians .

It's good to be in our think tanks and people who plan for the future. All of those companies working in conjunction with it seems corrupted politicians and military people approving weapons systems that do not align for the missions needed. It is not like the money allocated for this would be expensive if done right.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Anti-missile systems destroyed by missiles? Maybe we are sending useless outdated junk over there.

If you read the article, they were destroyed while displacing to another position ON THE ROAD. Patriots can't fire on the move. They have to be emplaced first.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The newer Russian drones are operating with fly by wire fiber optics. Nothing to jam...

UHH, you might want to think about that one. No drone flies around trailing a fiberoptic control link. They all work on a Radio Frequency data link that can be jammed or preprogrammed course.

 

[Failzero]

4 inch Shotgun ( 30 cal buckshot )

 

[elektra]

So we're the F-16s, and folks can't get enough of em'.

so?

 

[Vastator]

UHH, you might want to think about that one. No drone flies around trailing a fiberoptic control link. They all work on a Radio Frequency data link that can be jammed or preprogrammed course.

Uh you might want to read the follow up link. They're already in use...

 

[konradv]

Millions more of American taxpayer dollars just went up in smoke. Two Patriots destroyed by hypersonic missiles. What's the running tally on how much money our government has wasted over there now..?

A Russian Drone Spotted A Ukrainian Patriot Air-Defense Crew Convoying Near The Front Line. Soon, A Russian Hypersonic Missile Streaked Down.

A Russian drone operator’s persistence paid off when they located a Ukrainian convoy including, it seems, two truck-mounted quad-launchers for a Patriot missile battery.

www.forbes.com

Are we supposed to be concerned about a small victory for Russia? According to the article those Patriots shot down a bunch of Russian jets. Military hardware has a shelf life and it’s being used for its intended purpose, to protect democracy, without US troops being in harm’s way. A bargain in my book!

 

[Vastator]

Are we supposed to be concerned about a small victory for Russia?

No. We're supposed to be concerned about our tax dollars. And defending the Ukes, isn't defending Democracy. Not by a long shot...

 

[konradv]

No. We're supposed to be concerned about our tax dollars. And defending the Ukes, isn't defending Democracy. Not by a long shot...

It’s more important than the border.

 

[Vastator]

It’s more important than the border.

Not more important than my countries border.

 

[konradv]

Not more important than my countries border.

In the grand scheme of things a dictator trying to invade his neighbor and possibly our allies is much more troubling than people crossing the border to work.

 

[Vastator]

In the grand scheme of things a dictator trying to invade his neighbor and possibly our allies is much more troubling than people crossing the border to work.

Bull shit.

 

[Chillicothe]

No. ...... the Ukes, isn't defending Democracy. Not by a long shot...

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Well, forget about democracy then, and try pivoting to --- sending a signal to Bad Vlad that his aggressove behavior (ala', Moldovia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea, Chechnya, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia.....and now contesting the Kuril Islands with Japan) comes with a high cost. A cost that America is willing to help levy, albeit less than what the European Union has spent.....but still not inconsequential.

So, if America can partner with France, the UK, Poland, and others......to signal to Vlad that enough is enough, a line in the sand is drawn, well, that seems to be part of world leadership, IMO.

Isolationism ain't an option for the U.S. Not with an economy that is thriving in no small part due to international customers and international suppliers.

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ps....re: that "cost", this is reported from NBC News, as of December, 2023.

"In the past 22 months, 315,000 Russian troops have been killed and wounded, according to the assessment provided to lawmakers. Prior to the invasion, Russia had a ground force strength of about 360,000.


Russia has also sustained huge losses in equipment, with 2,200 tanks destroyed out of a force of 3,500 and one-third of its armored vehicles knocked out of action, the assessment said.

Russia in some cases has had to draw on Soviet-era hardware to replace the lost equipment, even bringing 50-year-old T-62 tanks onto the battlefield.

 

[PeterPilot]

My biggest concern is for the personnel who were killed operating these systems. Were there American casualties?

The Pentagon and MSM will never tell you.....don't forget what we learned from The Pentagon Papers--the Pentagon lies all the time. Indeed, it may be incapable of telling the truth.

 

[Vastator]

The Pentagon and MSM will never tell you.....don't forget what we learned from The Pentagon Papers--the Pentagon lies all the time. Indeed, it may be incapable of telling the truth.

Looks like the truth is slowly coming out, that American troops were killed in the strike...

US troops "may have been killed" in strike on Patriots in Ukraine: Russia

Americans may have been among the casualties, it is claimed, as drone footage of an alleged strike on the missile system emerged.

www.newsweek.com