CDZ Trump's Contract With America

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    Donald Trump's Contract with the American Voter

    https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/CONTRACT_FOR_THE_VOTER.pdf



    First link is the way it looked at the time he made the promises. Second link is to a readable pdf version.

    What do you think? I see several that he's no where near, some he has flip flopped on, a lot that is either very vague or very naive. Jesus, this guy had no clue and still doesn't.

    I really wish he would get a few intelligent and qualified staff but that's not going to happen.
     
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    Trump and his supporters are doing fine. You and yours? Not so much.
     
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    Maybe. I remember 2008 when the reverse was true. Oh well, it swings.

    Personally I think it is a little early to judge Trump, positively or negatively. He has accomplished little but he has not ended life as I know it. I'm content.

    What do you think?
     
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    I will withhold until 2020. 100 days is nothing.
     
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    Yes, well, that is the position to which one must resort when the plethora of things one's "guy" attested to having done within 100 days, and that were easy to do, are in fact, 100+ days in, incomplete.
     
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    I'm not resorting to anything and if I voted today it would still be Trump. I fully expect to be voting Trump in 2020 but hell we are not even close to that now are we?
     
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    The fact that you attest to this...
    ...is why all one needs to know to understand why you believe this....
    ...is so.

    You just go with that....
     
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    MOD EDIT: Did someone forget they were in the CDZ?
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    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
    ― Abraham Lincoln


    See there....I didn't have to wait 30 minutes for you to illustrate yet again the legitimacy of my remarks.

    This is thrice that you've posted unsubstantiated claims, twice in response to me, and such trite attestations are all you've had to offer.
    1. "Trump and his supporters are doing fine." That's what you wrote. You are oh, so naively wrong.
      • Personally, Trump is surely "doing fine." As POTUS, which is really all that matters to those of us who aren't members of the Trump household, fine isn't at all what he's doing so far. That his approval ratings are by -10% unmatched any modern POTUS coming off of what is, for all intents and purposes, the "honeymoon period" of a presidency attest to that. (See the list in the next bullet for an abridged list of things Trump has not done that he said he would in his first 100 days do.)
      • Trump's "supporters are clearly not doing fine." --> They either (1) cannot possibly be, provided their grumbling prior to the election be believed, or (2) we doing fine before Trump. Either way, the fact remains Trump's changed almost nothing -- though he's claimed to have improved all manners of things -- of the by-Trumpkins claimed misery that besets their lives and that gave rise to their supporting him, believing he was going to make their lives "so much better," something Trump tacitly affirmed he'd do in his first 100 days.
    2. "I'm not resorting to anything." --> So you say, but the "wait and see" pseudo-exculpatory nature of your remark in the face of Trump's aforementioned and observed failure to meet his self-defined standards of "100 days" achievement clearly indicates otherwise.
    3. "Your false claim means nothing." --> Oh my claim is not false for you have now (in the post to which I'm responding) given us another illustration of its verity by living up to the well publicised provincial acumen for which Trumpkins are well known. My claim is also not meaningless, for were it, at least to you, you'd not have replied to it, and yet you did exactly that. Doing so, moreover without "portfolio" also is characteristic of Trumpkins.

    When pontificating and sharing your analysis, providing citations that point readers to your underlying research [and observations] will help convince them that you have thought seriously about the matter under discussion.
    - Thomas G. Krattenmaker

    I'm fine with waiting until the end of Trump's term to pass final judgement. However, Trump is the one who defined issue his "100 day contract;" thus one need only allow the 100 day period to end. It has; thus rendering judgment is apropos. Don't chide me for taking note of the folly of his having done so and not meeting his stated standard of performance. Moreover, there is ample content -- provided by Trump -- for me to judge the man, which is precisely the nature of the my earlier remark....My, my, my, lookie there...that having been the nature of my comments, we see clearly now, went "zoom" on by you.
     
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    FWIW, I consider Trump a better President if he never gets around to building a border wall.

    Over the last 30 years I have learned great Conservative leaders can be declared great while doing nothing effective about abortion and great Liberal leaders can be great while making pointless loophole filled gun bans. Thus giving lip service to the motivated voting fringe is better than doing much for them.
     

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