Trial of Khmer Rouge Leaders Finally Brings Cambodians Hope for Justice

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by WillowTree, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. WillowTree
    Online

    WillowTree Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    68,155
    Thanks Received:
    10,166
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Ratings:
    +14,727
    Three decades after the fall of Pol Pot, the first trial of the leaders of his genocidal Khmer Rouge regime is to begin Tuesday before a U.N.-backed tribunal -- the Extraordinary Chambers of the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC).

    On Tuesday, a thin, elderly former schoolmaster will stand in the dock in a bland courtroom on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, accused of crimes against humanity committed 30 years ago.

    Kang Kek Leu, known as Comrade Duch, was the director of the infamous Tuol Sleng prison, the torture and interrogation center in Phnom Penh where thousands of innocent people were sent to die.

    FOXNews.com - Trial of Khmer Rouge Leaders Finally Brings Cambodians Hope for Justice - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News





    why did they wait 30 years? Gathering forensics doyathink?
     
  2. Sky Dancer
    Offline

    Sky Dancer BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    19,307
    Thanks Received:
    1,158
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1,164
    It'll take 30 years to try Bush for his war crimes.


    After 30 years, no one has been tried, convicted or sentenced for the crimes of one of the bloodiest regimes of the 20th century," said Brad Adams, Asia director for Human Rights Watch. "This is no accident. For more than a decade, China and the United States blocked efforts at accountability, and for the past decade, [Cambodian Prime Minister] Hun Sen has done his best to thwart justice."


    For many Cambodians, Jan. 7 is a bittersweet date: It marks their deliverance from the Khmer Rouge but also the beginning of a 10-year occupation by Vietnam.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/07/AR2009010702466.html
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2009
  3. Chris
    Offline

    Chris Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Messages:
    23,154
    Thanks Received:
    1,958
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Location:
    Virginia
    Ratings:
    +2,089
    We can only hope to one day have a democracy as good as Cambodia.
     
  4. Sky Dancer
    Offline

    Sky Dancer BANNED

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    Messages:
    19,307
    Thanks Received:
    1,158
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +1,164
    This is interesting:

    "The process of negotiating and organising an internationally acceptable tribunal for trials of Khmer Rouge leaders started in 1997. Experts advised then Secretary-General Kofi Annan that, due to wide scale corruption among judges and prosecutors, and their subservience to the government, it was impossible for a local tribunal to conduct fair and credible trials. They also ruled out a hybrid court, being convinced that its Cambodian members would take orders from prime minister Hun Sen, who, along with some of his Cabinet colleagues, had previously been part of the Khmer Rouge. It recommended a fully international tribunal, sitting outside Cambodia, but in a neighbouring country, so that Cambodians could follow the proceedings. Annan favoured this approach.

    The UN-Cambodia Agreement and the Status of the ECCC Law

    After long and intense negotiations, in which almost all the points of a UN draft were rejected by the Cambodian government, and under pressure particularly from the governments of France and Japan, UN negotiators reached an agreement based largely on a 2001 Cambodian law, which envisaged a tribunal, which was part of the Cambodian system.

    he institutions and rules for decision-making are complex, indeed cumbersome. They require constant negotiations between the international and local judges, prosecutors and administrative staff. The use of three languages and some tensions between judges trained in the common law and those in the civil law have added to the problems.

    The Cambodian government has interfered in various ways in the work of the ECCC. In this way the weakness and corruption within the national legal system have infected the ECCC, instead of the ECCC influencing the conduct of local judges and prosecutors. "
    The Standard | Online Edition :: The Khmer Rouge tribunal: Lessons for Kenya?
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2009
  5. Avatar4321
    Offline

    Avatar4321 Diamond Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    70,548
    Thanks Received:
    8,163
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Ratings:
    +12,163
    You know, its amazing how news like this makes liberals immediately bring up President Bush. He hasnt committed any crimes and you all know it.

    As for the hope for justice, is it really justice to take an old man to trial for crimes that happened decades ago? Are the surviving victims still full of despair over what happened?

    Im not saying the people involved shouldnt face justice. But if they have already reached old age and havent been doing anything for the last few decades, maybe we should just let God deal with the justice and forgive them and move on.

    Obviously there are still people who want to see them pay. I understand that. But I dont think hope ever comes from people being punished, even if that punishment is just. Hope comes from a greater source.
     
  6. waltky
    Offline

    waltky Wise ol' monkey Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    Messages:
    20,862
    Thanks Received:
    1,791
    Trophy Points:
    215
    Location:
    Okolona, KY
    Ratings:
    +3,881
    Khmer Rouge trials have run out of money...
    :eusa_eh:
    Cambodia Khmer Rouge tribunal staff going unpaid
    Jan 18,`13 -- About 300 Cambodian staff members at the U.N.-backed genocide tribunal trying former leaders of the Khmer Rouge have been working since December without pay, and face the prospect of not getting paid this year unless foreign aid donors contribute more funds, a tribunal official said Friday.
     
  7. Dante
    Offline

    Dante On leave Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    52,463
    Thanks Received:
    3,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,825
    Location:
    On leave
    Ratings:
    +6,054
    Oh please, too little too late. I know a few Cambodians who have relatives on both sides of the terror
     
  8. Dante
    Offline

    Dante On leave Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    52,463
    Thanks Received:
    3,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,825
    Location:
    On leave
    Ratings:
    +6,054
    The Cambodians can solve their own problems. They don't need condescending assholes from the western world telling them how to do things.

    Most of the people who demand things be a certain way make me ill
     
  9. waltky
    Offline

    waltky Wise ol' monkey Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2011
    Messages:
    20,862
    Thanks Received:
    1,791
    Trophy Points:
    215
    Location:
    Okolona, KY
    Ratings:
    +3,881
    Will Pol Pot's regime escape justice due to lack of money to try them?...
    :eusa_eh:
    Cambodia Khmer Rouge tribunal staff go on strike
    4 Mar.`13 — Cambodian translators angry that they have gone without pay for three months stopped working at the U.N.-backed genocide trial of former Khmer Rogue leaders on Monday, a new setback for an international justice effort that has been hobbled by conflicts with the Cambodian government.
     
  10. SteadyMercury
    Offline

    SteadyMercury Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2013
    Messages:
    4,730
    Thanks Received:
    1,187
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Ratings:
    +1,526
    This is such a joke.

    Look at their Prime Minister Hun Sen, he was Khmer Rouge and surely participated in his share of atrocities until he got caught up on the losing end of their internal power struggles and had to flee to Vietnam.
     

Share This Page