OohPooPahDoo
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how many of you think it is a deception to have 390 (W/m2) going up and 324 coming down?
Is that not the case?
LOL! It only 'disguises' that fact to imbeciles that can't do subtraction. You've got to be kidding me, right?while it is true in an absolute way it disguises the fact that only 66 w/m2 is available as the difference between the temps of the surface and the lower atmosphere. out of that 66, 40 leaves directly with only 26 W/m2 warming the lower atmosphere.
NO. The "greenhouse" effect refers to the gross trapping of energy by the atmosphere - not the net difference. Without it we'd all freeze to death.so 26 W/m2 is the greenhouse effect
and I have never seen any estimates higher than 26% for CO2's share of the GHE so that means ~8 W/m2 or less for the total amount of CO2. the absorption of CO2 is logrithmic so that means we are into the ninth doubling (256-512) so every doubling is ~(8W/m2)/8 doublings= 1 W/m2 or less.
Wow you've said a lot in a little amount of space, care to back it up and explain yourself a bit more?
I find it hard to believe that something that is responsible for ~1 W/m2 is the grand control knob of the climate. it is an amount that is lost in the error bars of measurement. but that is just my opinion but now you know why I think that way.
Whether or not 1 W/m2 - wherever you got that number - is within the error bars isn't really a matter of opinion.