Torture - Sleep Deprivation

[catzmeow]

Memos shed light on CIA use of sleep deprivation - Los Angeles Times

A CIA inspector general's report issued in 2004 was more critical of the agency's use of sleep deprivation than it was of any other method besides waterboarding, according to officials familiar with the document, because of how the technique was applied.

The prisoners had their feet shackled to the floor and their hands cuffed close to their chins, according to the Justice Department memos.

Detainees were clad only in diapers and not allowed to feed themselves. A prisoner who started to drift off to sleep would tilt over and be caught by his chains.

The memos said that more than 25 of the CIA's prisoners were subjected to sleep deprivation. At one point, the agency was allowed to keep prisoners awake for as long as 11 days; the limit was later reduced to just over a week.

According to the memos, medical personnel were to make sure prisoners weren't injured. But a 2007 Red Cross report on the CIA program said that detainees' wrists and ankles bore scars from their shackles.

When detainees could no longer stand, they could be laid on the prison floor with their limbs "anchored to a far point on the floor in such a manner that the arms cannot be bent or used for balance or comfort," a May 10, 2005, memo said.

This is NOT just about waterboarding.

 

[Zoom-boing]

It doesn't matter now, does it? Let's hope that if we need to interrogate terrorists in the future, they comply with kinder and gentler techniques cause Obama has taken plan B off the table.

 

[catzmeow]

It doesn't matter now, does it? Let's hope that if we need to interrogate terrorists in the future, they comply with kinder and gentler techniques cause Obama has taken plan B off the table.

Is it your considered opinion that the U.S. should EVER treat prisoners in the ways described in the article?

Do you understand that even the CIA's inspector general was critical of these tactics?

 

[Nik]

It doesn't matter now, does it? Let's hope that if we need to interrogate terrorists in the future, they comply with kinder and gentler techniques cause Obama has taken plan B off the table.

It matters that the United States abused detainees. Some of us care about the rule of law, and basic human decency.

 

[catzmeow]

Some of us care about the rule of law, and basic human decency.

I can forgive the Bush administration for their bumbling but well-intentioned invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. I cannot forgive them for undermining the constitution and the rule of law.

 

[Zoom-boing]

If less harsh techniques gets information from suspects who are reasonably known to have information, then use it. If that doesn't work and it is fairly certain that they have knowledge of pertinent, imminent information then use harsher techniques. Some of us care about the human rights of innocent Americans prior to the human rights of terrorists. But what I think (and what you think) doesn't matter anyway. Harsh techniques are off the table. How many threads are there going to be on this anyway?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Nothing new here... the ideological left is doing their level best to turn mass murdering slaughterers of the innocent, into VICTIMS!...

It's subversion of the first order...

 

[DiamondDave]

Ooooooooooooooo sleep deprivation

Yeah... never went thru any of THAT on a regular basis in the Army


Jesus people... not every harsh treatment or tactic is torture

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Ooooooooooooooo sleep deprivation

Yeah... never went thru any of THAT on a regular basis in the Army


Jesus people... not every harsh treatment or tactic is torture

ROFLMNAO...

Oh GOD! That's brutal... Oh Dave... NOW THAT'S gonna leave a mark!

 

[catzmeow]

David, if you can't even bother to read the posted article, then stop responding to the threads. YOu look retarded right now.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

it doesn't matter now, does it? Let's hope that if we need to interrogate terrorists in the future, they comply with kinder and gentler techniques cause obama has taken plan b off the table.

it matters that the united states abused detainees. Some of us care about the rule of law, and basic human decency.

bullshit.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

David, if you can't even bother to read the posted article, then stop responding to the threads. YOu look retarded right now.

The only retards in this thread are you and the other idiot trying to protect mass murdering scum that cut people's heads off with rusty swords and send in suicide bombers to murder innocent women and children.

 

[Nik]

Nothing new here... the ideological left is doing their level best to turn mass murdering slaughterers of the innocent, into VICTIMS!...

It's subversion of the first order...

Tell me again who the Uighurs mass murdered?

 

[Nik]

Ooooooooooooooo sleep deprivation

Yeah... never went thru any of THAT on a regular basis in the Army


Jesus people... not every harsh treatment or tactic is torture

The army kept you awake for 11 straight days with 0 sleep? Really?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Ooooooooooooooo sleep deprivation

Yeah... never went thru any of THAT on a regular basis in the Army


Jesus people... not every harsh treatment or tactic is torture

The army kept you awake for 11 straight days with 0 sleep? Really?

In some training course you are awake for 5 or 6 days. Always on the move running exercises.

In the Fleet Marine Forces you can spend days awake also on training exercises. And be expected to preform your mission and drive a vehicle and operate your equipment. Get a fucking clue.

 

[Nik]

Ooooooooooooooo sleep deprivation

Yeah... never went thru any of THAT on a regular basis in the Army


Jesus people... not every harsh treatment or tactic is torture

The army kept you awake for 11 straight days with 0 sleep? Really?

In some training course you are awake for 5 or 6 days. Always on the move running exercises.

In the Fleet Marine Forces you can spend days awake also on training exercises. And be expected to preform your mission and drive a vehicle and operate your equipment. Get a fucking clue.

11>5 or 6. A lot greater. Double even. And in the Marines you didn't spend months in a cell being beaten and the like to wear down your defenses first.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The army kept you awake for 11 straight days with 0 sleep? Really?

In some training course you are awake for 5 or 6 days. Always on the move running exercises.

In the Fleet Marine Forces you can spend days awake also on training exercises. And be expected to preform your mission and drive a vehicle and operate your equipment. Get a fucking clue.

11>5 or 6. A lot greater. Double even. And in the Marines you didn't spend months in a cell being beaten and the like to wear down your defenses first.

You are a fucking retard.

 

[Gunny]

Memos shed light on CIA use of sleep deprivation - Los Angeles Times

A CIA inspector general's report issued in 2004 was more critical of the agency's use of sleep deprivation than it was of any other method besides waterboarding, according to officials familiar with the document, because of how the technique was applied.

The prisoners had their feet shackled to the floor and their hands cuffed close to their chins, according to the Justice Department memos.

Detainees were clad only in diapers and not allowed to feed themselves. A prisoner who started to drift off to sleep would tilt over and be caught by his chains.

The memos said that more than 25 of the CIA's prisoners were subjected to sleep deprivation. At one point, the agency was allowed to keep prisoners awake for as long as 11 days; the limit was later reduced to just over a week.

According to the memos, medical personnel were to make sure prisoners weren't injured. But a 2007 Red Cross report on the CIA program said that detainees' wrists and ankles bore scars from their shackles.

When detainees could no longer stand, they could be laid on the prison floor with their limbs "anchored to a far point on the floor in such a manner that the arms cannot be bent or used for balance or comfort," a May 10, 2005, memo said.

This is NOT just about waterboarding.

So the Marine Corps and my current job tortured me? Who'd of thunk it.

 

[Nik]

In some training course you are awake for 5 or 6 days. Always on the move running exercises.

In the Fleet Marine Forces you can spend days awake also on training exercises. And be expected to preform your mission and drive a vehicle and operate your equipment. Get a fucking clue.

11>5 or 6. A lot greater. Double even. And in the Marines you didn't spend months in a cell being beaten and the like to wear down your defenses first.

You are a fucking retard.

No, dumbshit. The difference between keeping someone awake for 5 days and keeping them up for 11 days is substantial. That you couldn't realize this shows really poor cognitive abilities on your part.

 

[catzmeow]

The army kept you awake for 11 straight days with 0 sleep? Really?

Chained up, so you couldn't move....in a diaper?

I call bullshit, Diamond Dave.