There Was No 'Southern Strategy'

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    My public service: dispel the southern strategy myth!


    My across-the-aisle pal wrote this: "…segregationist voters who blamed civil rights on the Democrats, swiched loyaties to new Republicans who now embraced their views. Republicans ran against busing, against afirmative action, against equal rights legislation…The south has been Republican ever since.

    Another Leftist-progressive fairy tale...



    From chapter 12 of "Mugged," Coulter
    1. “In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections or to gain political support in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans….the strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater[6] in the late 1960s.” Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    2. According to this liberal myth, Goldwater and the Republicans were racists and used racism to appeal to racist southerners to change the electoral map. To believe the tale, one must be either a reliable Democrat voter, and/or be ignorant of the history of the time.

    3. Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators to vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He did so on libertarian grounds, opposed to the act’s restrictions on private property which he believed beyond the Congress’s powers under the commerce clause. Five others supported the party’s presidential nominee.

    a. Goldwater went on to win five southern states in 1964: Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina. But he lost eight.

    b. Democrats build the ‘southern strategy’ tale on the fact that the same states voted for ‘Dixiecrat’ Strom Thurmond in 1948 (less Georgia).

    c. Except that Nixon and Reagan lost, or almost lost the same states in ’68 and ’80…

    d. And Jimmy Carter and Clinton did pretty well in those states in ’76 and ’92.

    e. And the 'Goldwater states' went right back to voting Democrat for decades…




    4. So…if Republicans were racists and got racist southerners to vote for them, how to explain this: Republicans always did best in the southern states that Goldwater lost, which happened to be the same ones Republicans had been winning with some regularity since 1928.

    a. In ’28, ’52, ’56, and ’60, Republicans generally won Virginia, Florida, Texas, Kentucky and sometimes North Carolina or Louisiana. Did you notice that those years were before 1964?

    b. Four years after Goldwater, the segregationist vote went right back to Democrats: Humphrey got half of Wallace’s supporters on election day. Nixon got none of ‘em.

    “When the '68 campaign began, Nixon was at 42 percent, Humphrey at 29 percent, Wallace at 22 percent. When it ended, Nixon and Humphrey were tied at 43 percent, with Wallace at 13 percent. The 9 percent of the national vote that had been peeled off from Wallace had gone to Humphrey.” The neocons & Nixon's southern strategy - Pat Buchanan - [page]

    c. In ’76, Carter swept the South. Was Carter appealing to bigots….or is that only the case when Republicans win the South?





    5. Reagan lost or barely won the Goldwater states…but Reagan won among young southern voters- but lost among seniors, those who has voted in ’48 and ’64. That meant that the segregationists never abandoned the Democrats: eventually they died or were outvoted by younger voters. Nope…after Thurmond’s run, the Dixiecrats went right back to voting for Democrats for another half century.




    6. In writing about McGovern and Wallace, liberal luminary, Arthur Schlesinger, actually referred to Wallace voters as responding to their candidate’s “integrity”! “The primaries themselves, especially the success of McGovern and Wallace, provide the best evidence for the proposition that voters in 1972 care less about a candidate's stand on particular issues than they do about the candidate's integrity,…” How McGovern Will Win

    Get that??? Segregationist 'integrity'!!!

    a. McGovern gave a tip-of-the-hat to the segregationist Wallace in his acceptance speech at the Democrat Convention. That was the exact midpoint between Goldwater and Reagan. So…what of the imaginary “southern strategy” where the Republicans were supposed to have a plan to appeal to racists?

    b. Democrat McGovern: “And I was as moved as well by the appearance in the Convention Hall of the Governor of Alabama, George Wallace. … Governor, we pray for your full recovery so you can stand up and speak out for all of those who see you as their champion.”
    ACCEPTANCE SPEECH OF SENATOR GEORGE MCGOVERN


    Again? "so you can stand up and speak out for all of those [racist Democrats] who see you as their champion.”


    The Democrat Party: slavery, segregation, sedition and secularization.



    How you like that, booooyyyyyeeeeee???
     
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    another polichunk load of shit

    :lmao:
     
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    Whether you like Ann Coulter or not, "Mugged" is a great book.

    Sidebar: My Grandfather was assigned to the same B-24 squadron as McGovern in WWII and actually flew on a mission over Germany with McGovern as his Co-Pilot.

    Grandpa never mentioned it to anyone and I only found out recently when I was researching his WWII records. I sometimes wonder what Grandpa thought back in 1972 when McGovern was accepting the nomination.
     
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    Wow!

    Another précis that the Leftists found impossible to rebut, even to attack.

    Even the Lefty quoted in the OP....the one to whom the OP was directed!


    Well, then...I hereby move that the motion be carried unanimously: outside of the realm of fantasy....

    there is no"Southern Strategy" that enlisted 'racist southerners' to imaginary 'racist Republicans' and thereby maintained electoral superiority for the Republican Party.

    Nope....it's simply the excuse that the Democrats roll out whenever they lose an election.


    And....the Republicans are the Party that was created to fight segregation....the Democrats the party that supported same.
     
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    You forgot your numbers.
     
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    Kevin Phillips, Richard Nixon political strategist:

    "From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that… but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
     
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    Aren't you embarrassed that you never bring anything to the table?

    Never anything of substance to add to the conversation?

    Put a little effort in, here!!!



    Well....you are a Lib....so what can one expect.

    OMG! It's almost 5:30!
    Don't you have to hurry off to the Dumpster???
     
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    What's your point, BoringFriendlessGuy???


    Opinions? Bloviation?
    Some guy postulates blacks are this, whites are that...
    ...and, meanwhile, I'm giving you actual data!

    Take a hint from my stuff: any errors there?

    Shape up!!


    Geezz....I was waitin' for one of you guys to bring up the famous LBJ quote.....
    ...you couldn't even do that?
     
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    'Some guy' PC...are you THAT blinded by your own doctrinaire and dogma?

    Kevin 'some guy' Phillips was a strategist on voting patterns for Richard Nixon's 1968 campaign, which was the basis for a book, The Emerging Republican Majority, which predicted a conservative realignment in national politics, and is widely regarded as one of the most influential recent works in political science. His predictions regarding shifting voting patterns in presidential elections proved accurate, though they did not extend "down ballot" to Congress until the Republican revolution of 1994. Phillips also was partly responsible for the design of the Republican "Southern strategy" of the 1970s and 1980s.
     
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    polichunk defines vapidity
     

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