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Serious. Too many problems on borders and airports.

MICHELLE MALKIN

Racial profiling: A matter of survival
By Michelle Malkin
When our national security is on the line, "racial profiling" — or more precisely, threat profiling based on race, religion or nationality — is justified. Targeted intelligence-gathering at mosques and in local Muslim communities, for example, makes perfect sense when we are at war with Islamic extremists.
Yet, last week, the FBI came under fire for questioning Muslims in Seattle about possible terrorist ties. Members of a local mosque complained to Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., who called for a congressional investigation of the FBI's innocuous tactics. The American Civil Liberties Union of Washington accused the agency of "ethnic profiling."

But where else are federal agents supposed to turn for help in uncovering terrorist plots by Islamic fanatics: Buddhist temples? Knights of Columbus meetings? Amish neighborhoods?

Some might argue that profiling is so offensive to fundamental American values that it ought to be prohibited, even if the prohibition jeopardizes our safety. Yet many of the ethnic activists and civil-liberties groups who object most strenuously to the use of racial, ethnic, religious and nationality classifications during war support the use of similar classifications to ensure "diversity" or "parity" in peacetime.

The civil-rights hypocrites have never met a "compelling government interest" for using racial, ethnicity or nationality classifications they didn't like, except when that compelling interest happens to be the nation's very survival.

Missed opportunities

Consider what happened in summer 2001, when Phoenix FBI agent Kenneth Williams urged his superiors to investigate militant Muslim men whom he suspected of training in U.S. flight schools as part of al-Qaeda missions.

Williams' recommendation was rejected, FBI Director Robert Mueller later said, partly because of concerns that the plan could be viewed as discriminatory racial profiling.

Mueller acknowledged that if Williams' Phoenix profiling memo had been shared with the agency's Minneapolis office, which had unsuccessfully sought a special intelligence warrant to search suspected terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui's laptop computer, the warrant might have been granted.

If the FBI had taken Williams' advice, the feeling of some Arabs and Muslims might have been hurt. But the Twin Towers might still be standing and 3,000 innocent people might be alive today.

Absolutists who oppose national-security profiling often invoke the World War II experience of Japanese-Americans. When asked whether the 12 Muslim chaplains serving in the armed forces should be vetted more carefully than military rabbis or priests, Sarah Eltantawi of the Muslim Public Affairs Council raised the specter of Japanese internment.

The analogy is ridiculous. The more extensive screening of 12 military officers is a far cry from the evacuation of 112,000 individuals on the West Coast. The targeted profiling of Muslims serving in sensitive positions is not a constitutional crisis.

Some argue that the dismissal of charges against Army Capt. James Yee, a former Muslim chaplain who ministered to enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and was initially suspected of espionage, undermines the case for profiling of any kind. Not at all. As the Defense Department has acknowledged, the military's 12 Muslim chaplains were trained by a radical Wahhabi school and were certified by a Muslim group founded by Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was charged in September 2003 with accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars from Libya, a U.S.-designated sponsor of terrorism. These associations cannot be ignored.

Unfortunately, the Pentagon caved in to Eltantawi and her fellow travelers. Rather than focus exclusively on the 12 Muslim chaplains, it pressed forward with a review of all 2,800 military chaplains.

The refusal to be discriminating was, as Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., acknowledged, the "height of politically correct stupidity."

Smoke-and-mirrors arguments

In the wake of 9/11, opponents of profiling have shifted away from arguing against it because it is "racist" and now claim that it endangers security because it is a drain on resources and damages relations with ethnic and religious minorities, thereby hampering intelligence-gathering. These assertions are cleverly fine-tuned to appeal to post-9/11 sensibilities, but they are unfounded and disingenuous. The fact that al-Qaeda is using some non-Arab recruits does not render profiling moot. As long as we have open borders, Osama bin Laden will continue to send Middle East terrorists here by land, sea and air. Profiling is just one discretionary investigative tool among many.

Post-9/11, the belief that racial, religious and nationality profiling is never justified has become a dangerous bugaboo. It is unfortunate that loyal Muslims or Arabs might be burdened because of terrorists who share their race, nationality or religion. But any inconvenience is preferable to suffering a second mass terrorist attack on American soil.
 
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040817.shtml


EXCERPT:
Red Carpet Remains for Saudi Visa Applicants

Joel Mowbray
August 17, 2004

Now that President Bush is turning his attention to reforming the national security apparatus, one policy prescription not explicitly endorsed by the panel could prove to be one of the most effective: enforcing existing visa laws. Though it sounds simple enough, the State Department has yet to reform meaningfully this crucial component of the war on terror.

The beauty of using visa policy is that no new laws need to be written; State merely needs to enforce existing ones.
 
Kathianne I agree wholeheartedly with Michelle Malkin. But just identifying or profiling these folks before they do their deed is really not enough to stop them.

They will keep coming in new innovative ways to circumvent any profiling techniques.

Our Constitution prohibits the use of certain techniques to extinguish attempts to destroy our country and democracy. If the terrorists who come to western countries for the purose of destroying knew that if caught, their preceived ENEMY would have the knowledge to keep them from entering Islamic paradise, (i.e., the forced eating of pork, covering their bodies with swine blood and lard) without actually causing them physical torture or death, they might think twice about losing their salvation.

Something must be done to stop Jihadists from becoming willing martyrs.
 
ajwps said:
Kathianne I agree wholeheartedly with Michelle Malkin. But just identifying or profiling these folks before they do their deed is really not enough to stop them.

They will keep coming in new innovative ways to circumvent any profiling techniques.

Our Constitution prohibits the use of certain techniques to extinguish attempts to destroy our country and democracy.
The kerry campaign should qualify as an organized group intent on destroying our country.
If the terrorists who come to western countries for the purose of destroying knew that if caught, their preceived ENEMY would have the knowledge to keep them from entering Islamic paradise, (i.e., the forced eating of pork, covering their bodies with swine blood and lard) without actually causing them physical torture or death, they might think twice about losing their salvation.

Something must be done to stop Jihadists from becoming willing martyrs.

True aj. Cool to see you making sense! They should be force fed salad with bacon bits. Or collard greens in lard, Does that violate geneva convention?
 
Kathianne said:
Serious. Too many problems on borders and airports.

MICHELLE MALKIN

Yet, last week, the FBI came under fire for questioning Muslims in Seattle about possible terrorist ties. Members of a local mosque complained to Rep. [bJim McDermott, D-Wash.[/b], who called for a congressional investigation of the FBI's innocuous tactics. The American Civil Liberties Union of Washington accused the agency of "ethnic profiling."

Good News: I live in Washington and plan to vote against him.

He's one of only a few congressmen who visited Saddam's Iraq the few months before the UN inspection was complete in the buildup, coming back to claim cooperation and a position againt Bush.

Muslim religious practice and the ACLU are contradictory.
 

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