The Voters of America Are Coming to Their Senses!

[BULLDOG]

It really goes to show you just how the low the bar has been set in this country when a self-centered, lying crook like Clinton is the country's preferred choice for president.

She might not be had the other party come up with a reasonable alternative.

I understand that, but there are other people running for president too. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are on the ballot as well and they could seriously shake up the race if so many people in this country would stop being masochists at the voting booth. Voting for Trump or Hillary is like saying "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

And that's all up to the voter in question, not you.

If you want to throw your vote away, you have every right to do that. It's your vote.

 

[buckeye45_73]

CONFIRMED: The Voters of America Are Coming to Their Senses!

By Scan
Thursday Aug 04, 2016 · 7:18 PM MDT

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It got a little scary there for a few days in late July...but now that voters have seen both party conventions and the aftermath, Hillary Clinton has rightfully reemerged as the clear frontrunner. Hey...America is pretty smart!

Below is a sampling of today's amazing numbers.

McClatchy/Marist national poll:

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has surged to a 15-point lead over reeling, gaffe-plagued Republican Donald Trump, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.

Clinton made strong gains with two constituencies crucial to a Republican victory – whites and men – while scoring important gains among fellow Democrats, the poll found.

Clinton not only went up, but Trump also went down. Clinton now has a 48-33 percent lead, a huge turnaround from her narrow 42-39 advantage last month.

The findings are particularly significant because the poll was taken after both political conventions ended and as Trump engaged in a war of words with the parents of Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in an explosion in Iraq 12 years ago while trying to rescue other soldiers.

NBC News/WSJ national poll:

Hillary Clinton has jumped out to a nine-point lead over Donald Trump, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal national poll shows, nearly doubling the five-point advantage she held over her Republican foe before the political conventions.

In a head-to-head matchup, the Democratic ticket of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine receives the support of 47 percent of registered voters, while the Republican ticket of Donald Trump and Mike Pence gets 38 percent, the survey shows. Last month, Clinton led Trump by a margin of 46 percent to 41 percent.

In this latest poll, Clinton enjoys a significant advantage among women (51 percent to Trump's 35 percent), African Americans (91 percent to 1 percent), all non-white voters (69 percent to 17 percent), young voters (46 percent to 34 percent), and white voters with a college degree (47 percent to 40 percent).

Pennsylvania poll:

The July-August 2016 Franklin & Marshall College Poll of Pennsylvania shows that Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump 49% to 38% among likely voters. The Democratic convention appeared to benefit Secretary Clinton more than the Republican convention benefitted Mr. Trump. Nearly two in three (62%) of those who watched the Democratic convention reported being more likely to vote for Secretary Clinton, while only two in five (40%) of those who watched the Republican convention said they were more likely to vote for Mr. Trump.

New Hampshire poll:

According to a new WBUR poll of New Hampshire voters, Hillary Clinton is enjoying a dramatic post-convention bump and now leads Donald Trump by 15 points. Our poll also shows Democrat Maggie Hassan with a big advantage in her bid to unseat Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte.

The last time we polled in New Hampshire, three months ago, the presidential contest was virtually tied. Our new poll of 609 likely New Hampshire voters, conducted July 29 through Aug. 1, shows Clinton leading Trump 47 percent to 32 percent. When Libertarian Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein are omitted, Clinton's 15-point lead swells to 17 points.

Among the most important reasons Clinton has moved ahead so dramatically in this important swing state following last week's Democratic National Convention is that Democrats are uniting around her.

Florida poll:

Hillary Clinton now leads Donald Trump in the key state of Florida, a new Suffolk University Poll finds, another sign of a bounce in support for the Democratic presidential nominee in the wake of the national political conventions and controversies that have enveloped her Republican rival.

In the survey, Clinton leads Trump 48%-42% in a two-way race. That's an improvement for her from other recent Sunshine State polls averaged by RealClearPolitics, which had shown the two tied at 44%-44%.

Michigan poll:

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Republican Donald Trump in Michigan as 3-in-5 likely voters say the New York businessman is not qualified to be president, according to a new poll conducted for The Detroit News and WDIV-TV.

Clinton led Trump 41 percent to 32 percent in the statewide survey of 600 likely voters conducted Saturday through Monday following Clinton’s formal nomination at last week’s Democratic National Convention.

The poll contains many troubling signs for Trump’s White House campaign, including a “shocking” lead for Clinton in the Republican strongholds of west and southwest Michigan, pollster Richard Czuba said.

This is just today. I'm not including Hillary's 10-point lead in the Fox News poll, 9-point lead in the CNN/ORC poll, 8-pt lead in the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll, and 6-point lead in the CBS News poll. For the full picture of this week's polls, check out this list and chart from RCP.

And how about Nate Silver's current Now-cast map, which now shows even Arizona and Georgia slightly trending blue!

Obviously, these are numbers gathered in the wake of an extremely successful Democratic convention and a massive Trump meltdown, so nothing should be taken for granted from now until election day. But it's safe to say that the voters of America are coming to their senses after taking a good long look at both candidates.

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Only if you're a masochist. Who the fuck wants 4 more years of this shit

 

[BULLDOG]

It really goes to show you just how the low the bar has been set in this country when a self-centered, lying crook like Clinton is the country's preferred choice for president.

She might not be had the other party come up with a reasonable alternative.

I understand that, but there are other people running for president too. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are on the ballot as well and they could seriously shake up the race if so many people in this country would stop being masochists at the voting booth. Voting for Trump or Hillary is like saying "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

 

[Auld Phart]

It really goes to show you just how the low the bar has been set in this country when a self-centered, lying crook like Clinton is the country's preferred choice for president.

She might not be had the other party come up with a reasonable alternative.

I understand that, but there are other people running for president too. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are on the ballot as well and they could seriously shake up the race if so many people in this country would stop being masochists at the voting booth. Voting for Trump or Hillary is like saying "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

I'm not throwing it away.

and, at some point, there will be enough voters as disgusted as me, and the Democrats and Republicans will be 3rd party.

Won't be soon, but it will happen

 

[Silhouette]

I think they should have the below graph turned into wallpaper in the room the GOP is planning to have the intervention with Trump and his kids in this week. Then as they say, the writing really would be on the wall...lol.. And folks that sad little limp red line won't come up with any amount of political "Hillary lied!!!" viagra either before November. That dead horse ain't gonna get up and run. Voters lie too about significant things in their lives. And, Trump lies like diarrhea. Even dumb voters can spot a hypocrite...or a desperate chant from a political party so obviously stuck between a rock and a hard place..

 

[BULLDOG]

She might not be had the other party come up with a reasonable alternative.

I understand that, but there are other people running for president too. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are on the ballot as well and they could seriously shake up the race if so many people in this country would stop being masochists at the voting booth. Voting for Trump or Hillary is like saying "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

I'm not throwing it away.

and, at some point, there will be enough voters as disgusted as me, and the Democrats and Republicans will be 3rd party.

Won't be soon, but it will happen

OK., but what will the real effect of a vote for any third party be? You know they will not win, so how is your vote going to affect anything? Don't expect anything to change just because a third party got a few votes. The winner will NOT consider the third parties goals. If you want to be Don Quixote and tilt at windmills, then by all means go for it, but don't try to pretend that will change anything, or fix what ever it is you are mad as hell about. It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

 

[Auld Phart]

I understand that, but there are other people running for president too. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein are on the ballot as well and they could seriously shake up the race if so many people in this country would stop being masochists at the voting booth. Voting for Trump or Hillary is like saying "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?"

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

I'm not throwing it away.

and, at some point, there will be enough voters as disgusted as me, and the Democrats and Republicans will be 3rd party.

Won't be soon, but it will happen

OK., but what will the real effect of a vote for any third party be? You know they will not win, so how is your vote going to affect anything? Don't expect anything to change just because a third party got a few votes. The winner will NOT consider the third parties goals. If you want to be Don Quixote and tilt at windmills, then by all means go for it, but don't try to pretend that will change anything, or fix what ever it is you are mad as hell about. It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

and I thought dems were big on protests, and protestors.

You want to vote for the status quo, and elect another lying, cheating politician, or worse, a carnival barker that has no reason to be in the race, go for it.

But dont' expect me to vote for either of the pieces of shit we have as nominees this year

 

[BULLDOG]

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

I'm not throwing it away.

and, at some point, there will be enough voters as disgusted as me, and the Democrats and Republicans will be 3rd party.

Won't be soon, but it will happen

OK., but what will the real effect of a vote for any third party be? You know they will not win, so how is your vote going to affect anything? Don't expect anything to change just because a third party got a few votes. The winner will NOT consider the third parties goals. If you want to be Don Quixote and tilt at windmills, then by all means go for it, but don't try to pretend that will change anything, or fix what ever it is you are mad as hell about. It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

and I thought dems were big on protests, and protestors.

You want to vote for the status quo, and elect another lying, cheating politician, or worse, a carnival barker that has no reason to be in the race, go for it.

But dont' expect me to vote for either of the pieces of shit we have as nominees this year

It's your vote. Throw it away if you want to. Either Trump or Hillary will be our next president no matter who you vote for. Your only real option is which of those two it is.

 

[Auld Phart]

NO, it says...

So how is throwing your vote away going to change anything?

I'm not throwing it away.

and, at some point, there will be enough voters as disgusted as me, and the Democrats and Republicans will be 3rd party.

Won't be soon, but it will happen

OK., but what will the real effect of a vote for any third party be? You know they will not win, so how is your vote going to affect anything? Don't expect anything to change just because a third party got a few votes. The winner will NOT consider the third parties goals. If you want to be Don Quixote and tilt at windmills, then by all means go for it, but don't try to pretend that will change anything, or fix what ever it is you are mad as hell about. It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

It's just the silly action of someone mid-tantrum.

and I thought dems were big on protests, and protestors.

You want to vote for the status quo, and elect another lying, cheating politician, or worse, a carnival barker that has no reason to be in the race, go for it.

But dont' expect me to vote for either of the pieces of shit we have as nominees this year

It's your vote. Throw it away if you want to. Either Trump or Hillary will be our next president no matter who you vote for. Your only real option is which of those two it is.

Get a copy, have someone read it to you

 

[hangover]

Only 9% of America Chose Trump
and Clinton as the Nominees

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-america-selected-trump-and-clinton.html?_r=0

 

[Fenton Lum]

Voting for Johnson or Stein is like saying " It doesn't matter, so I'm going to be a dick and just throw my vote away"

The counter-productiveness of a protest vote is what keeps the two-party system going strong. America has always had two main parties. If one collapses it will only morph into whatever replaces it and eventually become the same thing.

Then keep shaking it up and don't let one settle in.

Not possible unless we go to a parliamentary system. The two party system is the natural result of how our election system works and an American public that can only think in us-versus-them terms.

Parliamentary would make much more sense, but you're right, the founders knew exactly what they were doing, they despised the rabble and democracy.

There is some truth to that but they also expected us to perfect what was then the unprecedented process of electing leaders to fixed terms in office.

Yeah? Well they must have expected us to fix quite a bit then. And we still haven't.

 

[CowboyTed]

Your poll is weighted with democrats...wtf did you think the results would be?

Sassy,

Look at the bright side, he has 40% in most polls... It just shows you that you can an orange haired baboon and he gets 40%...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Your poll is weighted with democrats...wtf did you think the results would be?

Sassy,

Look at the bright side, he has 40% in most polls... It just shows you that you can an orange haired baboon and he gets 40%...

Yawn....worry about your country and elections, loon